28 Years!!!! Yeh got me beat!!! I am only 35 years old.
AT work we typically use 66 and 110 blocks. We use 110's on the wall field
to patch dial tone over to the jacks. Do you work on PBXs? We have 4
fairly new Definity G3's and an Audix voicemail system. Until last year our
switches were over 15 years old. Had three G1's and a System 75. Our four
main campus locations are networked via point to point PRI's in a star
config topology. Our smaller centers uses small partner switches. What I
am curious about is why Verizon dmarcs uses Krone blocks? Just gotta be
different? One time I asked a Verizon tech if he carried a 66 or 110
punchdown blade and he said no. Don't know if he was bsing me.
Regards
Joe
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Actually, the "new" style boxes are a direct result of the Carterphone
decision and deregulation. Once the courts said it was okay to plug
something into the phone systems that wasn't provided by Ma Bell (this was
years before breakup), then the phone company needed a way to separate their
wiring that they are responsible for and any devices and/or wiring that they
have no control over. That is why the box is called a 'demarc', or
demarcation, box, since it marks the spot where responsibility changes. It
used to be a cute little metal box with a slide-off top that had these neat
wooden tubes that looked like fuses in it. They provided lightning
protection, and the open connection made a good point for the service guy to
check where the problem was. Later, it was just a junction box hidden
somewhere, usually in the basement. Now it is the box with the RJ-11 (one
for each line to the house).
Tim
(Who has been involved for the last 28 years [I bought the last 801A in
Cincinnati - who remembers what 'they' were?])
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"Tim Neumann" wrote in message
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Actually, the "new" style boxes are a direct result of the Carterphone
decision and deregulation. Once the courts said it was okay to plug
something into the phone systems that wasn't provided by Ma Bell (this was
years before breakup), then the phone company needed a way to separate
their
wiring that they are responsible for and any devices and/or wiring that
they
have no control over. That is why the box is called a 'demarc', or
demarcation, box, since it marks the spot where responsibility changes.
It
used to be a cute little metal box with a slide-off top that had these
neat
wooden tubes that looked like fuses in it. They provided lightning
protection, and the open connection made a good point for the service guy
to
check where the problem was. Later, it was just a junction box hidden
somewhere, usually in the basement. Now it is the box with the RJ-11 (one
for each line to the house).
Tim
(Who has been involved for the last 28 years [I bought the last 801A in
Cincinnati - who remembers what 'they' were?])
"Joseph Isbell" wrote in message
t...
Been in the telecom field for 11 years. I also have one of those newer
telco boxes on my house. If you plug a good working phone in outside
and
have any noise or no dial tone the problem *IS* the phone company. This
is
one of the reasons they moved away from the old terminal posts. Most
people
don't have butt sets laying around!!
This allows the customer to seperate his wiring from telco's.
BTW, I don't work for any telco or communication company. Am an in
house
tech for an organization with approx 11 phone systems.
Joe
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Hi both of you.
I have to say that I don't see how it would work as you say it should,
trebor. The telco box I have here is quite new. There is a little
connector wire that comes from the terminals to a jack on the part of
the box that I can't open and which has the main street wires going into
it. If I unplug that connector wire and plug in my phone, I get a static
filled connection. It sure has to be going out to the street because if
that jack was connected to the house side of the circuit I'd get no dial
tone. So I think I agree with vaixpert. Thanks for trying...
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Hi both of you.
I have to say that I don't see how it would work as you say it should,
trebor. The telco box I have here is quite new. There is a little
connector wire that comes from the terminals to a jack on the part of
the box that I can't open and which has the main street wires going
into
it. If I unplug that connector wire and plug in my phone, I get a
static
filled connection. It sure has to be going out to the street because
if
that jack was connected to the house side of the circuit I'd get no
dial
tone. So I think I agree with vaixpert. Thanks for trying...
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 02:23:11 GMT, "trebor4258"
wrote:
Now go to the box and find the point where the telco's pair comes
over
to
your side and unplug that connection. If it's a relatively new
junction
box, that plug is a regular male modular plug (RJ-11). Now you
should
be
holding telco's side of the connection in your hand as a male RJ-11
connector that's not connected to anything. You might have to make
a
Radio
Shack run at this point.
That's an odd ass backwards set up. On my house (and every junction
box I've ever seen in my area) the male plug comes from the house
and
the female socket is the telco feed.
Unplug the RJ-11 connector and plug in your phone. In order to plug
in your phone you have to disconnect the whole house so the process
is
100% full proof with no adapter needed.
You need an RJ-11 "barrel" (female-to-female connector), an RJ-11
phone
cord
(6' or so) and a real phone. Not a cordless phone, not any kind of
phone
that requires any kind of battery. Not a phone that has a speaker
phone
function. Not a phone that has any sort of memory or fancy stuff
at
all.
Just a plain old phone; the heavier it is, the greater the chances
are
that
it's just a plain old phone.
Why won't a modern fancy phone (known working of course) work for
testing purposes vs. an old princess phone?
George