"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 11 March 2019 18:51:05 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote

Yes whichever button I press the lift arrives.

Corse it does, but it will arrive quicker if you press the correct
one.

In theory in an empty lift,

It has nothing to do with whether the lift is empty or not.

It did to me because I had to get the trolly in ASAP.
Had to get the demo stuff to the lecture room for the start of the
lecture.
Only way to do that was to get in the lift before the students.
So fo rme it didnlt matter whether the lift was going up or down occuying
the lift meant you decided where it went rather than the students.

But you still achieved nothing by pressing the button that
pointed to where the lift actually was, or by pressing both
buttons. It would have got to your floor earlier if you had
pressed the button indicating which direction you wanted
the lift to go once it had arrived at your floor and let you in.

problem is this IS NOT the case with students using them.

Its even better with more people using the lifts at the time
you press the button.

No oit isn't.

Fraid so, because thats when the lift need to decide if its
better to stop at your floor when it passes your floor or not.
And its more likely to need to decide that when its moving
students around rather than just sitting empty waiting for
someone to press a button outside the lift.

If say the lift is at floor 4 and you are
at floor 2 and you tell the lift you want to go up, the lift
wont stop at your floor if its heading down to a floor
below you,

I know, so that means I can't get in the lift if it's going down,
and when it goes up it's still full of students going from Ground
to UP, so no room in the lift. So the best option is to get the lift
to stop whatever dorection it is going in at least yuo get in even
if it;s going in the wrong direction,

No point in doing that because that means that you have to
make those in the lift leave it so you can get your trolley in.
And it will still keep going to the lower floor after you do
that and will open the door there even tho those who
wanted to go to the floor have been kicked out of the
lift by you so you could get the trolley in.

that direction changes pretty quickly far quicker than waiting.

Nope, the direction doesnt change quickly because the
lift has no way of knowing that you kicked people out
of the lift so you could get the trolley in. It will still go
to the floor below yours and then head back up later.

it will still go to the floor below you and
then come up to your floor later which means you
will get to the floor you want to go to quicker.

But it will be full of students going up.

Nope, they wont be able to get into the lift because its
got your trolley in it.

Better and quicker to reserve yuor place in the lift while it's going
down.

You dont reserve anything.

It's like getting on the bus before yuor normal stop, I had to do that
today.

Nothing like, because you by yourself doesnt kick people off the bus
to get the trolley on it. Those already on the bus will tell you to ****
off and that you will have to wait for a later bus with space for you.

Central line was out, so in order to beat the other few hundred or so
gettign
off and queuing at the nearest bus stop, I walked 'back' 2 stops and got a
seat.

Nothing even remotely like the lift situation.

When we reach the stop I would normally be at there
was no room on the bus and 100 people wanting to
get on. That's why I was only an hour late rather than
giving up or arriving even later.

Nothing like the timing with the lift either.

and how does indicating you want to cross change anything ?

It tells the light system that you want to cross the ****ing
road and not just continue along the footpath, stupid.

and how does that change anyhting ,

If you want to cross the road, it has to stop the traffic, stupid.

They are there for show or rather to tell the users to WAIT.

They have no effect on the traffic lights.

Thats wrong too.

Look it up.

Dont need to.

I know that particularly with intersections where

or cross roads raley take any notice of anyone pressing
buttons they are on an automated systems.

Bull****.

The only crossing likely to take notice of a person pushing the buttons
are those where there's no crossroads or intersections and low traffic
flow.

Wrong, as always.

I know what they are meant to be for, they are to call the lift.

They are also to indicate to the lift whether you want to go up or
down.

and whichever you press the lift will reach you.

But will reach you quicker at times if you press the right one.

Makes no differnce,

Wrong, as always.

Pressing both buttons makes no difference, everyone know that.

But pressing the correct button does make a difference.

No it doesn't othe rthan the lift passes you by and that
isn't a quicker way to get the lift it's the slowest way.

But the lift will still keep going in the direction you dont
want to go, then head in the direction you do want to go
once it has got to the floor it was going to before you
press the button. So while you get into the lift earlier,
it in fact takes longer to get to floor you want to go to.