Here is a really nice Do-It-Yourself steel building.
http://www.futuresteel.com/default.htm



On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:54:14 GMT, "E5I5O"
wrote:

Ok, this is going to seem a little strange, because I am losing my property,
and any chances of a garage BUT, I have spent the last 14 years trying to
get someone to answer, what I thought, was a simple question, which is as
follows. I had been considering building a garage, but my problem is I don't
know much about construction practices. So if I were building a pole barn
style garage, would the floor have to be poured first or would it have to be
poured after the wall framing is up? I built a dirt floor pole barn with my
father, and I love my dad dearly, but I hate his building practices! While
building his pole barn, he would cut a bag of cement in half and throw the
half bag (cement, bag and all) into the hole then set the post on it and say
that "the cement with harden after a while" as he burried the pole (which in
this case was a 6X6X16). By the time the sheathing was started on the roof
we found (towards the end of the project) there was a wedge shaped section
of the roof that was off by about a foot and we needed to special cut two
sheets of plywood to correct the hole left in the eaves. Like I say my dad
isn't a good example for constrution, his logic is "Well it's just a barn"
attitude left me with years of question to follow! I have never agreed with
the logic that a Pressure Treated post will last 40 years burried in the
ground, as my pressure treated picnic table that he himself built for me,
fell apart just 8 years after being outside in the weather year after year.
While I feel the floor in this topic would have to be poured first (in my
thinking), then what holds the posts upright in the cement, or for that fact
how do you get the pole brackets to line up with one another correctly, so
your walls are still sqaure with one another? I can only imagine that you
would have to work very quickly to level the concrete, then pop your
brackets in the cement that attach to the end of the poles. All while making
multiple measurements to keep everything square. This to me would seemingly
be very time consuming at best and with only one person working on a 36' x
40' floor (as I don't have many friends thanks in part to my ex wife),
towards the end the cement would have started hardening making the brackets
difficult at best to put in correctly, and level. Though I thank anyone for
shedding a little light on the topic, I have hopes in the coming year I may
be in a better position to use the information, after I move from my NY home
to someplace warmer in climate!

Thanks again, E5