On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:59:07 -0800 (PST), John-Del
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 1:54:34 AM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

Drivel: The Kidney stones are finally gone after six weeks and three
laser lithotripsy surgeries. Not much pain and no complexications. I
win.

Wow, sorry to hear you were afflicted with those *******s. I've had
them several times and had one lithotripsy as did my wife (we're
fertile I guess). I passed a 6mm stone about three months ago.

Medicine has progressed considerably since I had my last stone 10
years ago. These days, the doctors insert a stent (plastic tube)
between the bladder and the affected kidney. This takes the back
pressure off the kidney and therefore eliminated most of the pain. It
was rather painful for about 2 days, until they inserted the stents
(one for each kidney). However, there were some problems breaking up
the stones with the laser and extracting the resulting rubble.

Glad you're feeling better; drink more water and don't drink tea!

Water yes, but your advice about tea is wrong. Most stones are
calcium oxalate. Prior to a few years ago, the recommendation was a
low oxalate diet and low calcium diet. Tea has variable amounts of
oxalate content depending on type. Same with many plant based foods
(kale, spinach, etc). However, the main problem is not oxalates, but
rather calcium. Reducing calcium intake is VERY difficult. I also
have heart problems. Finding a diet that is suitable for both is
difficult or impossible.

Today, the game plan of the year has changed. Instead of reducing
calcium input, calcium rich foods are recommended to reduce kidney
stone production. The idea is to have the calcium bind with the
oxalates in the foods BEFORE the mix gets to the kidneys, where it
gets precipitated as stones. These need to be in the diet, not pills,
and need to have the calcium and oxalate foods eaten at the same time.
For example, adding cheese to the salad.

"Oxalate content and calcium binding capacity of tea and herbal teas."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12495262

What go me was probably high fructose corn syrup, which is beginning
to appear as a cause of kidney stone production:
"The Not-so-Sweet Side of Fructose"
https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/20/3/457
"Fructose consumption and the risk of kidney stones"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0085253815529517
This was probably my problem as I had increased my consumption of soda
pop over the last 10 years (when I had a previous stone). Oops. I'm
still reading through the literature on the how this allegedly works,
so please do not treat this rant and gospel.

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