On 1/19/2019 6:03 AM, Max Demian wrote:
On 19/01/2019 09:14, FMurtz wrote:

try this,

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bottle+lid...%2Fs-l1000.jpg

https://tinyurl.com/y7af3byz

Looks like it could do some damage to the lid. Better the kind with a
belt around the lid, a strap wrench. I don't know whether domestic
versions are available.

I've not noticed any damage from it, and I've been using one of those
for years.