On Sunday, 2 December 2018 12:06:07 UTC, RJH wrote:
On 02/12/2018 04:08, tabbypurr wrote:


Quite. One person recently showed zero grasp of what it would be like to live on wind & solar when 98% of the generating capacity went down. They thought the lighting would all stay on.


Well I did too - thinking such systems had backup. Do solar/wind systems
really have no electricity storage or alternative source?

I was talking of nationwide systems, not single dwelling. Battery storage on that scale is impossible.


Still isnt the idea of getting a smart meter into every household is so
the skill of personal demand
management is learned my the masses or they will pay exorbitantly in the
future to continue to switch things on at the most conventional time like
we can now.


Difficult to predict - there's no one rationality. Some will try to save
money, some save 'the planet', some it'll appeal to avoiding waste, some
will set an arbitrary level of consumption and ramp up to that. Etc. Who
does what and why will unfold once decent scale research has been done
in the UK.

I can't see users changing their electricity consumption merely because they have a meter that expresses power use in 2 ways rather than 1


I think it's to justify excessive price rise over time while being able to blame householders for not managing their energy use better now that they have the tools to do so. Remote reading is sensible, but as ever our national politics manages to turn it into another way to scam people.


In fairness, there might be some reason to do with efficiency and
awareness. But it wouldn't surprise me if the main motivation was/is
profit in the short term, and data sales into the future.

Smart meters permit remote reading, but don't deliver any other form of efficiency improvement. Profit - who do you think lobbied for them to get fitted? The manufacturers of smart meters are enjoying themselves.

Remote reading is sensible & they're much more secure. The rest bundled with them is a mess. There are basic safety problems, failure to display the relevant data, installing meters that don't work with other suppliers, dishonest promotion, and some people have other concerns too.


NT