On 23/10/18 16:43, TimW wrote:
On 23/10/18 12:41, Tim Watts wrote:
On 23/10/18 09:39, TimW wrote:

hard right politicians like Farage and Reely Smug with their nasty
nationalist dogma.

"hard right" my arse.

Farage would probably fit the bill of being "heavily conservative",
which the Conservative Party has not been for some years (probably
last time was under Thatcher).

If you want hard-right, there are a fair few in America you can look
up on Wikipedia to give you a sense of perspective.


In the relatively civilised politics of the UK there is an enduring idea
that MPs represent all their constituents, not just the ones who voted
for them and that HMGov represents and has a duty towards all of HM's
subjects. No mainstream party has ever tried to divide the electorate to
say they are a party that represents only say catholics, or only the
English, or only trade unionists.

Fair points.

Farage and Reely Smugg have departed from that consensus to form a
faction that doesn't represent immigrants, says '**** you' to Scotland
and of course the whole Brexit debacle is about saying '**** you' to
half the electorate who don't want it. That's why they are outside of
the mainstream of democracy and are hard right politicians. They should
be universally despised by all right thinking people.

TW

But ultimately, they have to represent the wishes of the referendum.

What May is doing, saying Brexit is Brexit, then fudging it into
something that is virtually remain, is what *is* despicable.

Farage is a man of honour in comparison.