On Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:47:00 UTC+1, fred wrote:
I'm looking at solar powered pir outdoor leds. Does the solar panel have to face the sun or is sky view sufficient. ( Id need to make up a bracket to allow the panel face south)

You can get them with separate panels on a short wire so the panel can face South if necessary.
You need to avoid shading too.

Some have a small night light + brighter PIR.
In Winter packs in after a few hours due to lack of charging and this small night light..
But lasts longer the nearer to South pointing & least shading the panel has.

I have several. Only last about 5hrs in Winter and dull days.
You only find out after you've bought them.

PIR alone might be better (ie without night light)