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The motor which drives the clockwork mechanism has failed resulting in
the inability to open the gas valve and thus supply heat. So say both
myself and the plumber. He of course would like to sell me a new
furnace at about $6500 something that I'm resisting. I understand that
parts are no longer available for the 1930-ish Janitol controls
although I don't know why not. I can buy parts for a 1930's Packard
car--albeit paying an arm and a leg. Janitrol still exist but don't
even seem to have a website.

Two things...plumbers are NOT Heating contractors...thats one...

This one has "licensed HVAC contractor" on his business card and the
side of his truck. Just looking though the yellow pages for plumbers
shows many of them assert licensing for installation and repair of gas
furnaces and boilers.

And an H1 licence in this state considers me to be the same as a P2...a
plumber...I dont do plumbing work. I dont work on water systems.
There was a time in most areas, where a plumbing licence allowed them to
work on units..its a natural thing since in many areas, the heating system
is a water based unit...hydronics...
Now, there are separate licences required, and we still have many plumbers
that do heating work.
You miss the point fully however. I have a pipefitters licence...that does
not mean I do plumbing.


And Janitrol has a website, but there is NO parts information, and I can
promise you, they no longer make parts for the part you are talking
about.
Goodman, Janitrols parent, does not offer this part either...however, its
not the fact that it can not be converted over to newer parts..it
can...its
about the fact that no one I know will touch it. I wont. I can see my
insurance company now if something were to go wrong..in anyway...

Back to the drawing board. Why can't I replace the 24 volt motor with
a generic one? How do I search (Google) for a supplier? What I'd
really like is someone who offers a service of "Send me your old one
and we'll send you a new one with the appropriate drive shaft". How
would I search for a supplier here?

Forget it..this trade is not like that. Consider that part obsolete,
done....gone...nada...and move on.

Neither is the automobile business but there are people who make a
business of supplying obsolete parts or fabricating them when
necessary.

Funny...I was in automotive aftermarket and dealership enviroments for many
years. Still am in a way, since I keep my ASE certs up to date, and my
family owns a dealership. There are MANY parts that you simply cant get, and
if you dont believe that, come on over and look at my 48 Anglia...while
there is little in it that is factory, we kept a few items, and you just
CANT get parts anymore...period.
One of my Hemi Cudas is like that..you can get the hockey stick on the
passenger side, but not the drivers...you can get original still new in box
gills for the kickpanels, but you cant get the original air filter assembly
with the correct decals for the 426 on it....unless you pay out the nose for
a $2 decal...(it was $175 BTW)
The total custom hockey stick decal for the drivers side, when you can get a
company to do a special order like that can run into the thousands....for a
simple section of vinyl.


Alternatively, just as there a people who rebuild generators on cars
aren't there places that rebuild either the motor or the clockwork
mechanism itself. I understand it might require fabrication of some
parts but I have no idea how to go about looking for these things.

Look..you wont find a reliable one..this is one case, where it IS a
losing
battle.

I have a rebuilt starter motor in my car. Quite reliable, thank you.

Wow. A starter motor is NOT a combustion unit for your furnace, and
comparing the two in this case is pointless, particularly with someone that
knows both ends of the biz in question.
Big deal...I have a rebuilt starter on about 4 of the vans, and a rebult
alternator on all of them, and a couple have rebuilt motors...and a
few..when the engines worn to the point that its not worth rebuilding, gets
one of two things....a new engine, rebuilt with a good block of course, or
sold for scrap.
Your furnace...needs to be sold for scrap.


Alternatively, I'm not sure I trust the plumber and his "No current
controls available with a 24 inch blast tube"

OK..then...in simplest terms...STOP.
If you dont trust him, WHY are you even considering using him?????

News flash: I don't trust ANY plumber, HVAC contractor, or
electrician, especially those who want to go for the most expensive
option.

No..the most expensive option if to throw parts at it, and its something you
cant see...
And BTW, I dont trust homeowners that balk at price, when I know good and
damn well I am as cheap as anyone for the equipment we sell, but then, our
clients normally are not worried about much as long as they are confortable,
and know we wont leave em hanging...and they do.
Had a guy today that wanted to barter the price...I listened to him and told
him that we might not be his company, and that he needed to shop on...he
did, and called back about an hour ago...we start on it Friday. Big
deal...its the way we do biz...
Oh..I might also add that we sometimes give units away to the older
folks...complete installs, and donate all we can to the tech
schools....so....take that for what its worth.



Give ya a hint tho..I have put in furnaces for less than your guy wants
to
throw control parts at it.

Including removal of all that asbestos?

Humm...actually, funny you state that...on the website there is a couple of
pics for the state board on a job that a hack screwed up and ran from to
advoid being arrested..(hes got warrants out now, since claiming to be a
contractor in this state and not being licenced is a felony) and there is
asbestos. Since there is a licence for that, and we do not want...we sub
out. The asbestos that needed to be removed...the old hydronics systems pipe
insulation, cost less than $500 for the home.
And we are going to repair the damage to the home for about
that..(1400)..permits included..so..I would dare say yes...in the ballpark.
But...personally, anyone thats got asbestos still in a home, in a heating
system, is either a fool, or foolish. Not saying you are..but its starting
to come out...
You dont want to have to pay for the removal, and abatement, therefore, you
want the furnace in place and running so that you dont have to pull permits
and get hit with an inspector saying...thats all got to go...




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