In message , at
09:13:04 on Sat, 28 Jul 2018, michael adams
remarked:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 09:09:49 on Thu, 26 Jul
2018, michael adams
remarked:

As to your other point about Londoners enjoying a fares freeze,
I'm rather astonished to learn that you weren't aware that this
freeze only applies to single journeys. There is no such freeze
on the cost of travel cards or on Oyster card daily and monthly
caps.

It's not a universal freeze, but you've got the formula wrong.

I haven't mentioned any formula.

All I said was that the freeze applies to single fares only.

It doesn't apply to National Rail single tickets within London.

And that it does *not* apply to travel cards and oyster caps.

Indeed, although they are cheaper than they would otherwise have been,
because a major element of them (the TfL fares *has* been frozen).

The freeze turned out to be only applicable to fares set by TfL
(which includes
TfL-only singles, of course); however tickets which are within London, but
inter-available with National Rail (which includes some singles but
especially
Travelcards and Oyster capping which emulates Travelcards), have an
element set by
those National Rail TOCs, and haven't been frozen.

Where have I, or anyone else for that matter, ever said that travel cards and
oyster top-ups of any kind, by whomsoever issued, *were* frozen ?

The Mayor implied that they would be.

An incorrect assumption in that respect may well have been current
among the less well - informed, or the ideologically deranged, but then
they may well consider all sorts of nonsense as being true, if it
serves their own purposes .

There is indeed a certain derangement afoot regarding which "heavy rail"
services come within the purview of National Rail (and hence neither
frozen nor subsidised by TfL), and which (the *O*verground) within TfL's
purview.
--
Roland Perry