In message , at
20:57:40 on Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Robin remarked:
I'm with you on much of the above as ISTM you did capitalise
Overground. But on a pointy of detail I think TfL's operating subsidy
comes from business rates.

Upthread (which is what started this discussion) someone said:

## There will be no more general grants from the government for
## day-to-day running of services from 2018 - earlier than TfL thought.

Like yourself, I don't have a great deal of enthusiasm for drilling down
into what grants, what inputs to government pay for the grants etc.

The council tax pays for the revenues lost due to the Freedom Pass; is
in my view not a subsidy so much as a bulk purchase; and does go to
both TfL and to TOCs. At least it did last time I looked at the
almighty complex system of annual settlements with TfL and the ATOC and
London Service Permit route operators, and apportionment between
boroughs. (I gave it a firm and manly look; and then moved on.)

Out in the provinces I think the "bus pass" schemes are paid for much
more directly linked to actual ridership data. Very few are valid for
any form of rail travel though.

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Roland Perry