On 12/07/2018 19:22, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:14:35 +0100, Robin wrote:
On 12/07/2018 16:30, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:30:08 +0100, Robin wrote:
On 12/07/2018 15:02, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:55:09 +0100, Harry Bloomfield
wrote:
wrote on 12/07/2018 :
It needs an electrical inspection every 5 years, and anything that fails to
meet current standard at those times be brought within spec. So yes.
Think about it, no it does not. Imagine having to rewire a property
every five years, just to bring it up to current standards. Regulations
are not applied retro spectively. What met regulations at the time it
was installed, remains satisfactory now. Though it might be advisable
to bring an installation more up to date with current regulations.
Do the same rules apply to rental properties. ISTR some of the gas
safety rules had retrospective effect (eg, hard-wired smoke
detectors). .
In England a landlord of an ordinary domestic property (not an HMO) is
only required to keep the electrical installation in a safe condition.
(Smoke and CO alarms don't have to be mains so are really a separate
issue.) HMOs require more - eg a EICR every 5 years.
Scotland, Wales and NI do their own thing. Eg Scotland requires PAT for
landlord-provided appliances.
Do we not also require to provide alarms that are hard-wired (2007
onwards) and interlinked?
What makes you think so in England?
Don't know about England. I'm in Scotland. I was responding to your
second paragraph, specifically the latter part of your last sentence.
Fair enough.
Of course I did start that sentence "Eg" by which I hoped to indicate
that it was not the only difference but I apologise if you feel insulted
by the absence of recognition of the requirement for interlinked alarms
(which as it happens I did know about). I apologise equally to any Welsh
or Northern Irish readers who feel I should have kept quiet if I was not
willing to provide an exhaustive account of all 4 regimes.
I'm not a landlord and I've not helped anyone who is with the regs since
2014. But I saw nothing in the new regs in 2015 to require interlinked
mains alarms in non-HMO properties and can't see anything in the current
guidance on gov.uk or from my council.
I also don't know of any legislation that applies to _existing_
properties, when rented, the higher standards for new builds in the
current Building Regs. But that's not saying a lot given the length and
width and height and depth of my ignorance.
I understand the landlord can carry out the
PAT testing if he/she passes a test in the subject.
I don't know what the Scots do and don't accept.
You may find this instructive:
https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.or...ish-landlords/
Thanks.
As far as I am aware this is a UK newsgroup, not an English one.
Yes. Which I is why I mentioned that this was a devolved matter for
Scotland, Wales and NI. And made clear where I was referring to
England. You have then very successfully caught me out by using "we"
without any clue as to which jurisdiction you had in mind. Well done.
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Robin
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