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On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 12:34:45 PM UTC-4, Dear Believer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT),
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On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 12:30:36 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 10:20:56 -0700, Mayla wrote:

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:48:19 -0700, raykeller
i'll_stick_my_2_cm_cock_in_Wieber's_ass_in_3_2_1 @I_is_a_looser.con
wrote:

On 6/8/2018 8:04 AM, Mayla wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:29:04 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:06:29 -0700, Mayla wrote:

On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 21:23:04 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...

Even California has bigger forging presses. Most are hydraulically
operated these days. Control is far far better and can be tuned to
whatever you are forging.

http://web.webermetals.com/60000-ton-press/

Thats 60,000 Tons..per square inch btw

The highest pressure presses can fit in your hand:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_anvil_cell
640 GPa = 93,000,000 PSI

You appear to be mistaken. Because that's only 46,500 tons psi, more
than 20% less than Gunner's example. He says he does engineering every
day
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/talk...8/W18ojvVyFwAJ
so he must be up on these things. Perhaps he could suggest somewhere
for you to get some remedial training. Best to avoid the embarrassment
of claiming some dinky thing has the highest pressure when we have it
on good authority that much higher pressures are achieved on a
warehouse-sized device.

I "must be up on these things"?

Well, yeah. Normally one expects people who "do engineering" to be up
on basic concepts and terms such as psi. Do you disagree? Are there
some special circumstances that prevent you from explaining your own
statements?

Only one special circumstance: no engineering background.

Other than that...

chuckle

The problem is much deeper than a lack of engineering background. A
high-school level tutorial on the basics of pressure versus total
force would take about a half hour. Folks of average intelligence
wouldn't find it difficult. I know good people who could never get it
though. But I don't know any good people who would try to fake it, in
print no less, as Wieber does with his 165 IQ. LOL


What..you mean the press wont deliver xx,xxx tons per square in? Over
a rather large area..each little square inch getting xx,000 tons on
it?

Really? Oh woe is me..tell me it isnt so!

Snicker...laugh laughlaughlaugh


60,000 tons per square inch is at least 500 times more than any metalworking press can deliver; around 1,000 times more than any commercial metalworking press can deliver without tearing itself apart.

The steel in the ram itself will collapse like a wet noodle if you try to load it to more than 60 - 75 tons per square inch.


You *******! Why are you spoiling my fun? No matter I suppose. If
history is any guide, Wieber will stick to his story, physics be
damned. Forecast is calling for more comedy. Maybe this newsgroup can
become know as the Onion of materials science.


He rarely admits it when he's wrong -- in fact, he'll often resist any evidence, no matter how obvious and unquestionable, that contradicts something stupid that he's said.

He's an ideal Trump supporter. d8-)


Could Wieberskull material be used for super-strength rams and dies?

I love Wieber physics. Here's another of my favorites in which Admiral
Wieber, who "does" engineering every day, weighs in on climate change
by summoning all the buoyancy expertise he gained while hoarding free
sailboats.

"Ice is 30% larger in volume than water. When a block of ice floating
in a container of water melts..the water level goes....down..not up"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....c/BP4WQAsFAwAJ

Perhaps he'll take this opportunity to explain how much the water goes
down "per sq inch... btw."