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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:19:59 +0100, Rod Speed
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news On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 19:57:02 +0100, The Other John
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What ****es me off is they wrap each one
separately. Why?

To make them child proof 'cos idiot kids think they're sweets!
Trouble
is they are not only child proof they're adult proof as well!
With
arthritic hands I have a hell of a job getting them unwrapped.

There's nothing on god's earth which is more child proof than
adult proof.

Plenty that uses the fact that adults have much bigger and
stronger hands is.

Everything like pills requires more dexterity, not strength.

That's not true of the bigger caps that are used on plastic
bottles of metho, acetone, white spirit, bleach etc that
you have to squeeze before you can turn the cap.

Rubbish, you don't have to squeeze those very hard.

Too hard for the youngest kids that shove almost anything in
their mouths to be able to do tho given the size of the caps.


Fact: adults ask kids to open childproof caps for them.


Not the sub 2 year olds that put everything in their mouths.


But adults can keep dangerous stuff away from those by height.

The trick is to squeeze and turn in one motion,

And the little kids that shove anything into their mouths can't do
that.


And neither can some adults.


Yes, some with arthritis do have a problem with those.


They **** off most healthy adults too.

something that larger hands are rubbish at.

Bull****. Works fine for me.


But the less abled adults don't matter eh?


Corse they do, particularly the ones with arthritis,
but only much more expensive fully electronic with
RFIDs on the wrist of the adult work with those.


Or just normal non-safety caps.

Adults have larger hands so less dexterity.

That's wrong with women particularly.

Maybe so, but men use white spirit.

And can get the caps off those fine.

It's been proven in studies adults are worse at undoing those caps.

Like hell it has.

It has.
https://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/16/s...n-ignored.html

That's not talking about what is harder for adults than kids,
its saying that the downside with those caps is that some
adults don't put the lid on again with stuff like pills where
it works fine to leave the cap off.


Which defeats the point of the nanny society protection.


Yes, that's why we mostly have those cards with push out pills now.

And for those that can't use those due to arthritis etc
you can also get fancy machines that get loaded by
the pharmacy with the month supply of pills that
run the pills out into a little bin thing at them time
the pill needs to be taken where even the most
disabled person can pick them up and no kid
can feast on the full month supply etc.


A kid can't open the push out packs?!

It's all a load of ********. There's nothing that will fool a child
and not an adult.

It isnt about fooling, its about stuff that requires more strength
and bigger hands than those very young kids have.


Bull****. It's not strength but dexterity you need. You need to do a
push and a turn at once.


There isnt just one type of very young child proof cap.


I've only seen two. Squeeze the edges and turn, or push down and turn.

Same with the cupboard door catches where you put your
finger thru a hole in the door that need longer fingers.

Besides, shouldn't it be up to the parents to keep the tablets
away from their kids?

Easier said than done quite a bit of the time
with stuff that's used most days. Few want to
fart around locking stuff like that up and the
kids will soon work out where the key is anyway.

Well that's the parents' problem.

Not a solvable one;

You educate your kids

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
you have never tried that with a sub 2 year old.


Use the below then. Not hard to keep things out of reach of a 2 year
old.


Harder than you might think. We had someone post a video of
their little monkey shinning up the allegedly child proof gate
of the swimming pool, wearing just his nappy. with the 5' high
vertical rails between his toes. Caused one hell of a commotion
on facebook. In their case the pool hadn't been built yet, just
the fence and gate and they decided to not dig the pool until
he was older.

Corse even that situation is doable with an RFID system with
permanent plastic bracelets for the adults and older kids and
none for the youngest kids.


Just let the morons take themselves out of the gene pool.

or keep the stuff where they don't know it is

Have fun with that with stuff you use every day.


Most people have cupboards at eye level. Kids old enough to reach
those can be taught not to be stupid.


Doest work like that with the worst of the little monkeys.

Makes more sense to do with with the RFID bracelet approach.


What a waste of time.

or can't reach it

The worst of the little monkeys can get anywhere
an adult can with stuff used every day.

or don't have a key.

Have fun ensuring that the kid doesn't know
where the key is with stuff used every day.

I never had a problem drinking bleach as a child....

But plenty of other kids did.


Then they should be out of the gene pool.


Doesn't usually kill them.


Then what's the problem?