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Default Smart meters yet again - EON

whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
dennis@home wrote
Andrew wrote
dennis@home wrote


The consumer pays for all the costs of a business!


But benefits from *none* of any savings that they
(the customer) make on behalf of the company.


Of course they do, if they didn't make the savings the consumer would
have to pay more when they put the price up more to pay the extra
costs.


Take BT, they used to give credits for customers
opting for electronic bills. Then the saving was
quietly removed, along with a variety of call credits
and free caller-id.


And your point being?


BTW you can still have free CI, and there are bill savings
to be had if you pay by DD and have paperless billing.


How long do you think that will last ?
When will they charge extra for NOT paying by DD and then
won't accept any other method of payment other than DD.


You used to be able to get discounts
by paying cash few places do this now.


Because it costs them more to do it that way.


and now yputr saying it doesn't cost them more,


No I'm not.

so what's changed ?


Quite a bit. The surcharge for card transactions has
dropped dramatically, particularly with debit cards
and eftpos. And the retailers have realised that the
credit card operations were lying to them when they
claimed that the merchant agreement meant that
they couldnt apply a surcharge to the customer to
to cover the merchant fee. They used to offer a
discount for cash to get around that. They now
know they are free to slug the customer the fee
if they want to. And now that most dont pay
with cash anymore, they realise that handling
that cash costs them more than using a card does.

You used to be able to hire a car with cash, but its
only the absolute dregs end of the market like 'Rent
a Wreck' that still let you do it like that now, because
of the much higher cost of handling all that cash.