On 6/6/2018 at 8:01:59 AM, wrote:


On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:16:57 -0000 (UTC), "Dove Tail"
wrote:

On 6/5/2018 at 8:38:17 PM, wrote:


How is suicide a violent death? Seems pretty calm to me.
Murder is a violent death and the murder rate has gone down in
spite of millions of new guns being sold every year.


Ahhh, a slightly more sophisticated variation of Uncle
Menstrual's definition ploy. Can you distract attention away
from the issue of easier access to guns equating to greater gun
violence?

How is it "violent" to blow off the top of one's head with a
shotgun?


Here are a couple of definitions of "violent", hope you learn
something.

Adjective: violent

1. Acting with or marked by or resulting from great force or
energy or emotional intensity

2. Effected by force or injury rather than natural causes

Certainly not any more violent than jumping off a building hanging
yourself and no where near as violent as intentionally hitting a
dump truck head on.

Changing your story and acting as if you didn't. You asked "How is
suicide a violent death? Seems pretty calm to me." Now you are
admitting it is violent, but no more violent then blah, blah, blah.


The fact remains Japan has a higher suicide rate than the US and
they have no guns.

You also glaze over the fact that violent crime is declining and
gun ownership is rising.

Your points are completely irrelevant to the study referenced above,
which statistically demonstrates that easier access to guns results
in more deaths due to gun violence.

Once again, you did not read the article, or the study and are
simply jumping in with bull**** to obfuscate and distract. Yawn.

VPC does not release "studies" they cherry pick statistics to reach
the conclusion they support and you gobble it up and treat it as fact.

The classic "Genetic Logical Fallacy", judging something good or bad on
the basis of where or whom it comes from. Very sloppy Fretwell.

A disingenuous way to avoid holistically discussing the actual
information presented in the article.

Are you capable of having discussions without using logical fallacies?
Asking for a friend. ;-)