On 6/5/2018 12:27 PM, Dove Tail wrote:
On 6/5/2018 at 9:15:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


On 6/5/2018 11:07 AM, Dove Tail wrote:

This was a study about gun violence, not suicide. I am sure you
could find suicide stats if that is what you are interested in.


They gave stat with no real meaning though. A quick glance may have
people thinking more guns = more suicide, but that is not the case.

You keep wanting the study to be something it is not, a study of
suicide.

The stats clearly show that the more guns in a state, the higher the
rate of suicide "by gun." IOW, when guns are readily available, they
are used more frequently for suicide.

The fewer guns, the lower the amount gun violence.


In a report for 2014 in the National Vital Statistics Report, Montana
has the highest rate of suicide in the nation (251 suicides for a crude
rate of 24.5)

The New Jersey rate is 8.27

So, Montana has 4X the guns but only 3X the suicide rate.
The rate of male suicide in NJ is 29.7, very high compared to the
overall rate in MT though 63% were firearm. American Indians account
for 35% of suicide but are only 6.6% of the population

http://www.state.nj.us/health/chs/do...j1999-2014.pdf
While firearms are responsible for 55.4% of male suicides and nearly a
third of female suicides
nationally in 2014, in New Jersey they account for 29.7% of male
suicides and just under 10% of
female suicides (Figure 4).Â*Â*The percentages of suicides carried out
with firearms decreased in
New Jersey from 1999 to 2014 among both females (46% decrease) and males
(24% decrease).

Conclusion: American Indians need better access to mental health help.