On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 02:48:26 -0400, J. Clarke
wrote:

SNIPP

If he only got 2 Mb/sec out of modern Ethernet he's got a computer in
the middle there purposely designed to be a throttle.

Gigabit is just not that fragile. It has been shown to run on barbed
wire.

8 strands of barbed wire I assume?????
It will NOT downgrade it's speed as required to maintain connectivity.
Instead it will fail and retry, and fail again, untill it manages to
successfully pass the packet. This will NOT result in gagabit speeds -
likely even less than 10BT speeds.

SNIPP
I also still have a few routers, switches and stuff, Cisco commercial
products, wanna buy them and get them off my hands?


I've got gigabit stuff that's technically obsolete too - but would
still make someone a DANDY network

About $20,000 worth, at the very minimum when new - and it is NOT
CISCO.
I suspect that they are well and truly obsolete.

In any case, nobody is going to be running a T1 from their house to
their garage on a CAT6 cable. What's going to be running on it, in
2018, is gigabit Ethernet.


Or even. more commonly, a 100Mb connection (still WAY faster than
most internets)
Of course not, the switchgear costs alone would be prohibitive, plus
the cabling. But he could run fiber optics and never have any of the
problems associated with hard wire systems.

What would justify the expense?

The only thing that would justify fiber to the shop is EMI issues -
and they would have to be BAD - unless you just happen to have a bunch
of fiber net equipment gathering dust in the "sandbox" and you want to
play - - - -

If my creds are so important to you then you can call Cisco and see
what all I was certified for at the time. I am not keeping my certs
updated because I am retired. Get it?

And the equipment is leaving you WAY behind as well.
I never got CISCO certified because you could go broke just
maintaining currency with their new product.

I did not say "creds", I said "cred". You're topping it the expert
here when it's clear that you are far from up to date.

I'm basically "retired" for a year and I know I'm already far from up
to date with current technology. I gave up trying to keep up 5 years
ago when I offloaded the network management to a third party
consultant - who also prooved to be less than current and has now been
replaced by a larger and more proficient network consulting/management
firm. I wouldn't know where to start with the current setup in the new
insurance office facility. It's all enterprise grade stuff surplussed
out from Blackberry's downsizing - well over 1/4 million dollars worth
of network switches, routers, servers etc

The "obsolete" gear I have sitting here is what came out of the 2
offices when they moved in together in the new facility - virtually
all less than 5 years old

SNIPP
Explaining or rationalizing why it is important to do it right in the
first place.

What is "right" and what is adequate to the task are two different
things.

Overkill in IT installations is RAMPANT - particularly for home
installs.

SNIPP

Well that's all well and good. So how much measured degradtation have
you experiences in wires run from people's houses to people's garages
carrying gigabit?

I didn't do houses expect for friends. But the ground field for the
bldg is a big issue in such cases which I addressed in another post.

Apples - oranges - Turnips.

Yeah, you addressed it but didn't give any reason to believe that you
are familiar with transformer-coupled network interfaces which are
standard with modern Ethernet but apparently didn't exist the last
time you dealt with Ethernet.

If I gave you my full resume from all the years I've worked you would
probably call me a liar too. Oh well. what's a guy to do?

I don't care about your damned resume. You remind me of the mainframe
types who have been in IT for 50 years but can't figure out how to
work Excel.

About 27 years and I'm already a dynasaur - and I've never been
involved with anything outside the IBM compatible PC world, except for
the old 6809 Tandy world. (a bit of Banyan Vines, a bit of Unix Xenix,
a bit of Nohell, a touch of OS9 on the 6809 Trash80) - but
functionally illiterate outside the MS DOS / Windows world.