On 26/04/18 11:48, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 26 April 2018 10:39:53 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/04/18 10:29, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:57:30 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:44:56 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 15:44:18 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
whisky-dave wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 April 2018 17:33:30 UTC+1, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp
wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:48:57 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

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That would constitute a measurement. The act of doing this would make
the cable live, or dead.

No it would not.




Unless you can prove otherwise :-)


Try it and let us know.

That's not proving otherwise. Connecting any load is in fact making an
observation, whether the load be a DMM or an organic breathing entity.

then define load?, is the insulation around the conductor a load ?
IS the air a load, the only thing that can't be considered a load is a vacuum.

I know of a Mr Maxwell who might have disagreed with you over the
vacuum, depending how long the wire is and how fast the voltage is
changing.

what if two wires were 1 metre apart and had negligible cross sectional area and the force between those wires was 1x10^-7n in a vacuum.


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Roger Hayter

1x10^-7n in a vacuum.

There we are, the measurement has been oserved, the cable is "live".

it's not a cable it's a wire. Do you know the differnce.


I certainly do not.

Then why not look it up, educate yourself.
http://www.differencebetween.info/di...cable-and-wire



one man's semantic pedantry



Tell us oh great one, when is a wire not a cable and vice versa?

Now you need to educate yuorself on the differnce bewteeen potential difference and voltage.
http://www.differencebetween.info/di...ial-difference


Oh dear.

In that article: "Electric potential difference is the same as voltage"


you might also need to understand what is actual meant by live.

I am smiling - do carry on.





If you watch a youtube video of someone connecting a circuit to 240V
and lighting a bulb does that make the cable or wore 'Live" or is it
recorded,
you might then need to understand the differnce between soneone that
says they love a kebab and someone that says they love their partner or
their pet.
And those that say they could murder a beer or eat a horse.








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