On 23/04/2018 22:47, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:16:04 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 23/04/2018 18:47, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:23:49 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 17/04/2018 20:27, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:44:05 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 17/04/18 07:49, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
"A live wire is a wire with current flowing through it.

a live wire is still live when there is no load on the circuit.

Well exactly...

No,
With no load it is neither alive nor dead.

Your statement does not agree with the accepted use of the term "live"
in the UK wiring regs.

(that's aside from being nonsense at pretty much any level).

Why?

Because if said cable is connected directly to 240V at an energised
consumer unit for example, then it *is* a live wire regardless of
whether current is being drawn.

If the wire is connected to 240V, then it is a live wire that's bloody
obvious

Not to you apparently, a moment ago you said: "No, With no load it is
neither alive nor dead".

So you admit that was ******** then?

If you have an unknown wire, then you treat it as live until you can
prove its dead.

Depends what you mean by unknown, what parameter, Voltage, current,
colour, material?

More blather.

You come across a cable, pink, yellow, brown, blue, whatever.

Until you assign an indicator, it is neither alive nor dead.

Are you suggesting that the circuit will in some way become self aware
and alter its wiring in response to it being labelled?

Of course not, that's stupid. It will remain neither dead nor alive
until an observation of the charge is made.

Oh do behave.

If its unknown, then you treat it as live until tested.

No need to, if it's unknown it's neither dead nor alive. Best not use
a wet finger as the measuring device though, it isn't a pleasant way
to detect 240V

I hear some powerfully dumb stuff here at times, but you are pushing the
envelope!



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Cheers,

John.

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