On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:19:51 +0000, (Roger Hayter)
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Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 13:11:15 -0000, "tim..."
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:08:19 -0000, "tim..."
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
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On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 10:34:53 -0000, "tim..."
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"Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp" wrote in
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Once again the idiots advertise their complete ignorance of how the
single market works.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...n-swipe-at-eu-
over-leaked-brexit-documents-a3762021.html

When Britain becomes a pathway for every bit of substandard crud the
US wants to throw at us, what right has the rest of the EU to refuse
it??


the same right that they have if the USA (or China) import it directly
to
them

that it doesn't comply with local product standards requirements

tim


Which is why customs will be needed,

but we don't have that system at the moment with imports from ROW

ROW?

We do have customs, I assume that technically we have some level of
customs intervention even with traffic from the EU, otherwise there
would be no blue channel at airports.

Customers checks are for the purposes of collecting duty, not checking
against product standards.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in you choice of words. I am happy to
use the term customs checks for this process as long as you understand that
collecting duty and standards compliance are two distinct and separate tasks

Commercial importation is the same

manifests are read so that duty can be assessed.

Individual boxes are not opened so that product can be tested for product
compliance.

Hopefully we will have agreed an FTA so that there is no need for any duty
to be assessed and that part will be dispensed with too.

Customs does seem to have a low involvement now, at one time half the
type of stuff I order from Ebay would be opened and I think it was
over £12-00 in value before money had to be sent, but they never
failed to bill One.

domestic importation has been seen to cost them more than they collect

unless they suspect importation of an illegal substance you will often get
away with it.

I notice that the stuff that comes directly from China is labelled up
"samples" or suchlike, makes a change from "used clothing left after
holiday".

Even posting houseplants to Ireland was a customs holdup, I seem to
recollect it wasn't straight duty though, it was an "import licence".

This wasn't a payment of duty, this was payment for a right to import
a specific type of product. i.e compliance.

The actual costs was miniscule, but I remember the balls of dried
earth that fell from the package when it was finally delivered.

Maybe the issuing department was the ministry of agriculture or
suchlike, but the interception was done by customs.

We have a system of checking product compliance at point of sale (usually
initiated by extra-governmental bodies such as consumer advice
organizations)

Because the theory that, just because a product has come from inside the
EU
it must automatically comply (because all EU companies are good boys who
will followed the rules) is incorrect.

The two biggest scandals of broken standards in that past 10 years, the
beef
that was really horse and Dieselgate were both perpetrated by companies
from
INSIDE the EU, so that method of checking at point of sale cannot be
dismantled and replaced with checks at point of entry..

if a product line is not in
keeping with internal standards, trading cannot continue unimpeded.

Of course it can.

It is. Try buying sodium chlorate or a 2.5kW domestic vacuum.

and this is enforced at point of sale

what point are you making?

Trading in the items is impeded, I would have to go to a lot of effort
to try to obtain sodium chlorate for instance.

Unless you want a prolonged 14 day interview in an unidentified cellar,
with a lawyer who is on the other side and forbidden to tell you what
you are accused of, I advise against it.

(Home synthesis is probably safer.)

I bought some sodium nitrate from Amazon for tree stump removal.
I still get ads for things like aluminium powder, magnesium ribbon and
the like popping up when I log in.

If my interest in "pyrotechnics" has been "deduced" by Amazon, I hate
to think what other databases I might be included on :-(

'Wouldn,t mind but by the time I got around to the job, I found it was
rotten anyway. Did't even need a spade.


AB