On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 6:37:50 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
OT What was wrong with Trent Franks asking his staff members if they
would be maternal surrogates? That is, if she would handle the
pregnancy for him and his wife?

All they have to do is say no. Surely no one would expect to be fired
for saying no, any more than if he asked to borrow a million dollars. In
fact since there were two of them, we can check with the first one and
see if she was demoted or fired. And I've never heard of forcible
surrogacy.

And while it is called "sexual reproduction", there would be nothing
normally called a sex act involved.

Is this some sort of Puritan nonsense?

I thought similar. I think it's a bad idea to be asking people who
work for you to be a surrogate. It is bizarre and I can see it leading
to all kinds of potential problems, particularly if they said yes.
But on the other hand, I don't see how in the world this turns into
some kind of horrific scandal that requires him to resign. It's
possible there is a lot more there which we don't know about.

This whole thing is very sketchy, as to what is sexual assault, where
something goes from making a pass once at someone at work, to where it
really is a hostile work environment. And people who may have done
something wrong at some point are now kind of bucketed together with
Bill Cosby and Weinstein. When the first allegations against Franken
came out, I thought what he did wasn't something that warranted his
resignation. That pic of him staging for the camera, clearly pretending
to grab the actress's tits, when he was a comedian, wasn't any kind of
real assault. Yet people
went after him like it was the same as what Weinstein had done. AT that
point I thought it was very unfair to Franken. As
more accusations came forward though, including ones that were while
he was a Senator, then it evolved into something serious. Franken
had a very good point in his resignation speech. How ironic it is
that Franken is resigning, while Trump who bragged about his assaults
on video tape is in the WH? And Moore, who has so many identical
accusations against him that show a pattern of a 35 year old man
at the very least chasing after teenagers, that it's impossible to
believe they are all liars, is the GOP
candidate for Senate in AL, supported by both Trump and the GOP?
It really is a bizarre and sad new world. In effect, the Russians
are winning, we're destroying ourselves from within.