On 28/11/2017 09:57, Andy Burns wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote:

The problem with ceiling rosesÂ* for the uninitiated is that they can, at
least in UK, contain lives that are not switched as well as one that is.

A year or two back, my neighbours were having a kitchen re-vamp as part
of an extension.Â* Having removed the ceiling rose along with the
ceiling, while waiting for the sparky to arrive the next day, the
builder kludged the wires into a choc-block (all reds together, all
blacks together, don't bother with the earths).


For those of you who remember rise and fall lights over the dining
table, after I fitted one in my Victorian house (nice high ceilings!) a
friend and neighbour of mine decided to do the same.

That was exactly how my mate wired it.

But he wasn't a brickie, he was a GP who before turning to that calling
had done medical research in Cambridge and at Harvard, who had a better
golf handicap than most club pro's, and sang opera at professional level
(he almost went into that instead of medicine).

Guess who fixed it.