On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 05:52:01 -0800 (PST), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Monday, 27 November 2017 13:24:38 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 04:07:19 -0800 (PST), whisky-dave
wrote:

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There will always be 'potential' issues about everything.

No there won't.

So why were these heaters always a potential issue ?

Because *you* noticed a functional anomaly from the get go.

And that functional anomaly has now be confurmed to be operating as it should according to the productinfo people whom I;d assume know more about their product specs than sales.

Yup, and we are back to the assumptions ...

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I think the heaters are working exactly as they were designed to work no fault.

That's good then.

Would yuo really send them back and then send the replacements back and then sent the second set of replacements back, and teh 3rd and the 4th.

'Would I really?' No, I really wouldn't.

Because according to you they have a fault.

Where have I ever said that?

Threr;s only one fault and it's in your head.

Do the test coat test if you are so sure ...

Or saving a few lives ... only time will tell now eh.

And if your version of tech support is anything to go by.

And if your (first) version of tech support is anything to go by?

The first thing is to satiffy the customer and to make sure the person reading the email can;t be blammed for not saying send the faulkty product back.

Ok?

Then they ask someone that knows what they are doing


And who was that (assuming it wasn't your last and only valid option).

someone with an actual skill

So that would be an electric design / testing engineer then.

or someone that can read a manual

It's not covered in the manual.

or actually think,

So not you then, you have to ask here.

or they can contact those that make the product.

Ah. Glad you got there in the end. And you / they have done that have
they, I'd like to see their reply?



I was happy with the PAT tester who tests the equipment for electric safety.

And I never had any thoughts regarding their electrical safety.

So why contact tech support if there wasn't a problem ?

To make sure there wasn't.

and yuor tech suppoort said return then

LIAR!

Short mememory haven't you.

Nope.

"Hello,

Many thanks for your email and my apologies for this error.
Our technical team have advised that they believed this to be faulty.

If you can advise of the order details for this order this can be
logged for you.

Kind regards,

CPC Sales team"

whoever you said you contacted suggested they should be returned.

Nope:

"Hello,

Many thanks for your email and my apologies for this error.
Our technical team have advised that they believed this to be faulty.

If you can advise of the order details for this order this can be
logged for you.

Kind regards,

CPC Sales team"


where as my productinfo said they are designe dto switch down to 700W.

Yes, so they say.

So for me there's no problem then,

Good for you ... so you will be happy to do the overnight coat test
yes?

if they were designed to do that,

Ah, I think he's getting closer ... *IF*.

some here suggested faulty wiring as tehy were meant to switch off.

Yes, me, all part of the same potential issue.

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Unless you can tell me exaclt ywhat the 'potentail' issue is, but I'm betting yuo can't.

How much you willing to bet mate? £100?

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Oh, you have spoken to the manufacturers as well now have you?

I haven't spoken to anyone

You are a liar then (or so stupid you don't understand that an email
correspondence includes 'speaking to someone' in that context).

(and neither have you so what are these potential issues you speak of)

I have (see above).

but those at product info said.

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"Unfortunately there was confusion over our initial response, the drop in power drain is due to an internal thermostat designed to lower the temperature to ensure the radiator does not overheat.

Yes, but a 'drop in power' isn't the same as 'turning all the elements
off in the light of an overheat condition' is it?

We are sorry for any inconvenience caused."
---------------------------------------------

Can you understand those simple words are they too difficult for you.

Whoosh.

So, when Vauxhall says 'There are no issues with your Zafira', you
will be happy to sit there when it is in flames around you'?

Where it says.
"the drop in power drain is due to an internal thermostat designed to lower the temperature to ensure the radiator does not overheat"

I know, I told you that is was there and exactly what it did ... and
you argued many times that it even existed.

NO WHERE does it say the heater switches OFF.

I never said it did, just that I feel it would be safer if it did.

NO WHERE does it say the heater phones home or is a danger if it switches down to 700W

Grow up.

So where do you get the idea that the heaters are faulty, it;s yuor head that;s faulty nothing else.

That's your call mate. Done the coat test yet?


SO the potential issue is no longer a potential issue.

Yup, still is,

No it isn't.

Yes it is. That fact that you don't understand what it is doesn't stop
it existing.

as even a technical numbskull like you should be able
to see. Put the radiator on 700W

yuo can;t pu it on 700W ****wit.

Of course you can, you just flick the first switch on (really, are you
*that* stupid)???!!!

and the stat on full and chuck a big
coat over it and see what happens. If you are confident there are no
safety issues, leave it like that overnight.

Then stick your fingers in an electric light socket, then surely we should send all electric light sockets back shouldn't we.

Grow up. Do the test if you are so sure of yourself.

What about the potential of peole runnjng oput in front of cars, are yuo saying send all the cars back for repair ?

Grow up. You are making yourself look more stupid than normal and just
digging yourself in deeper and deeper mate.

Switch it to 700W, turn the thermostat up to full, chuck a big coat
over it and go home for the evening.

Hopefully, you will just have a warm coat (or a dead rad) in the
morning, not being held back by the fire brigade.

Cheers, T i m