On 20/11/17 11:22, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Tim Watts"Â* wrote in message
...

As mentioned before I have a branch of the heating system that is
slightly at risk of freezing - UFH and an air blower in the conservatory.

I was considering Sentinel X500 which is propylene glycol based, but
thought people might be interested in some pros and cons I've
discovered during research:

Pros:

1) Obviously, reduction in freezing point. Protection to -6C at 20%
dilution.


Cons:

1) Not cheap - would cost £100 to add 20% to a moderately sized house
system;

2) Read reports that it can result in leaks due to lower surface
tension (valve stems, any joint that has a tiny flaw that otherwise
holds water);

3) Worcester Bosch on the 42CDi Nat Gas, tell me I can only dose to a
maximum of 20%. I asked because I noticed that auto air bleed bottle
vents specify = 30% glycol.

4) Sentinel specify a minimum dosing of 20% as it contains the
inhibitors too;

5) Question of toxicity if the DHW heat exchanger ever leaks.



So given how little protection (-6C) I can get, I'm cancelling that
idea and getting some modes made (when I connect the UFH and add the
auto bleed vents) to add local isolation inside the house and extra
drain cocks to make it easy to dry out that part of the system with a
wet+dry vacuum.


I'll be doing some detailed measurements this winter on how cold the
pipework gets relative to outside (it is adjacent to the house wall or
under screed. Former, together with wind protection, does buy an
envelope of protection and the screed will slow the rate of cooling of
buried pipes.


So what I expect is that most of the time, when heating is running, it
will be fine.

If we happen to go away for 1-2 weeks in January/February, a quick
local drain down might be in order.

Or electric trace heating. I have a run of pipe in a shed that regularly
froze until I put trace heating tape round it. TLC sell a kit that is
reasonably priced and has a blimp thermostat that fixes to the pipe and
comes on close to freezing - works a treat so far

Andrew



The only problem with that is the Myson itself - it has a myriad pipes
and fins inside and is probably the only or at least the first bit that
would freeze