On 18/11/2017 20:53, pamela wrote:
On 19:19 18 Nov 2017, Fredxxx wrote:

On 18/11/2017 18:59, pamela wrote:
On 13:53 18 Nov 2017, Andrew wrote:

On 17/11/2017 13:40, JoeJoe wrote:


How many loaves of bread would that have bought?

ÀšÃ‚£7.50 can easily buy you at least 15 loaves nowadays.


£7.50 is a lot more than the folks from Latvia, Poland and
other places can earn. This is the problem, their sheer weight
of numbers means that employers and parastitic agencies can
operate the sort of 'flexible' employment that employers could
only dream about 20 years ago. And they are happy to live 12
to a house to save money.

Those migrant workers have to pay UK costs while living here.
Looking at what they would earn in their home countries is
largely irrelevant.

Meanwhile down in Mythyr Tydfil there is an army of unemployed
folk who have spent a whole generation on the dole, or more
likely 'disability' benefits and they cannot even be arsed to
get the bus or train down to Cardiff where there is plenty of
work. They don't even have to learn another language on the
job either.

Those same migrant workers provide a shining example of a good
work ethic for UK workshy to see.

Two employers I have spoken to some time ago, who have a
significant proportions of migrant workers, say that after 18
months to 2 years they seem to acquire British work ethics.

That would be a disappointment. It doesn't happen to all because
I see hardworking immigrants who arrived long ago.

Quite, I also see indigenous workers with a good work ethic too.

Unfortunately the response of a UK
workshy person is to get resentful rather than to seek a way to
improve themselves to the point of getting a job.

Many can't expect to improve their lot. You seem to forget that
20-25% of the indigenous adult population are unable to read and
write.

Maybe literacy is the first thing they should work on. They could
take night classes like so many immigrant workers do.

One of my closest friends was a Senco, so I had first hand knowledge of
the memory retention of some and its consequences. A reading age of 9
requires knowledge of around 300 words. (Please correct me if I'm wrong
as my recollection is hazy) Some simply can't remember that many.

Immigrant workers already have the nous to make it to the UK. They are
already a cut above the indigenous illiterate.

One thing I was hoping to hear was how much the organisers of
Goodwood revival were paying the agency to supply those 18
£7.50 per hour staff ?. We didn't get to know that, but did
get a glimpse of the Mercedes emblem on the steering wheel of
the younger divorcee running the show. (The one who voted
remain).