"Yellow" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:11:40 -0000, tim...
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"Yellow" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:37:57 -0000, tim...
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
tim... wrote:
1) Benefits on offer to the "wont work" are far too generous if an
unemployed person can say "I wouldn't get out of bed for 7.50 an
hour"
and/or "I rather spend the time at home with my girlfriend". We
need
to
systematically reduce benefits for the fit and healthy the longer
they
are on benefits.

I'd love to see the likes of you live on 7.50 an hour. But it will
be
the
usual 'don't do as I do, but do as I say'.

1200 per month, perhaps 1000 after taxes

3-400 on a room in a shared house

6-700 for other expenses

seems perfectly adequate to me

When starting out in your career that's what you have to do

and yes it IS what I did


It is a hell of a lot more than I earned when I was an apprentice,

well it's a hell of a lot more than when I was in my first job

but whilst I can remember how much I earned

I haven't a clue how much my house share cost, so I couldn't put it in
those
terms

But I can definitely remember that I didn't earn enough to rent a flat
for
myself and had to live in a house share for the first 4 years of my
career
until I had established some seniority and an enhanced salary

and I certainly couldn't have decided that I wanted to settle down with a
pregnant girlfriend on the salary from my first job - as the 19 YO in the
example did (apparently the pregnancy was planned and not an accident!).
This is just irresponsible. You cut your cloth to suit your means, not
inflate your needs unreasonably because it entitles you to take a trip to
the social for some more cloth.


I don't pretend to know the answer but I find it quite depressing that
people can afford to live on benefits (and because I get someone screams
at me - you can!) by making the career choice of having children.

Yeah, it was quite interesting to compare say someone who runs a
checkout at the supermarket and someone who chooses to have kids.
They end up with a similar real standard of living, the state minds the
kids for most of the day once they are of school age, you get to do
what you like with your time instead of your employer telling you when
to do what and you even get to enjoy the ****ing that produces the kids.

Hardly surprising that so many choose to go that route instead of working.

Some even like kids.