"alan_m" wrote in message
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On 17/11/2017 12:21, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

I have brought many new graduates into the computing industry.
Back when I started doing this in the 1980's, it took about 2 years
before they started paying back - until that point they are consuming
more management/training resources than they contribute back in work.
So unless they stay for probably 4-5 years, they were only a drain on
the company. This was within a large UK company (GEC).


But back then the GEC/Marconi way was to de-skill the graduates first by
giving them completely menial tasks and then at the end of the second year
re-train then in the inefficient corporate ways.

These days you may find that with certain ways of recruitment to weed out
the dross before employment, sponsored formal training and giving work
experience in holiday periods before full time employment gets you well
motivated graduates that give productive output in a very short time. Long
gone are the days when an engineering graduate will have (or want) the
same job for life or even possibly stay with their first company for more
than a couple of years.

Even with more highly paid skilled jobs poor management will give you an
inefficient work force.

When I worked for GEC in the early 1990s failed engineers became managers
who were then promoted to a level of incompetence.

That kinda happened with some union leaders, promote them (to their idea of
an important job) to keep'em quiet.
Principles have a price.