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"James Wilkinson Sword"
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2017 06:13:02 +0100, Diesel wrote:

"James Wilkinson Sword"
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10 instances of non-death more or less prove it isn't dangerous.


It proves nothing of the sort, James.


Of course it does. Do you understand statistics at all?


Indeed I do. it's one form of math that can be twisted to lie, but,
it's mathematically sound.

Are they telling you what they had running of the circuit when
it tripped? It may not have been a false trip.

No problems fund, just girly breakers.


That wasn't an answer to my question...


Yes it was. The breaker tripped when there was no fault to trip
for. A fuse wouldn't have done that.


Again, you neglected to answer my question. Did they tell you what
was running off that circuit when it tripped?

I'm not discounting the possibility of a bad breaker, I'm asking you
a very simple question. You neglected to mention what kind of breaker
it is, too. if it's an arcfault/gfci breaker whatever was on the
circuit might have been causing it to trip. A fuse wouldn't know
anything about either condition and so wouldn't necessarily blow in
whatever event was taking place, instead, it would happily keep the
current flowing when it might not be a wise decision.

To put it another way, the fuse won't do anything right away if you
drop a hair dryer into the sink filled with water and reach for it,
not thinking. A proper circuit breaker on the other hand will notice
something is up before you even touch the water and shut the show
down, before you become another Darwin award winner.

As I've told you before, it's not necessarily the voltage. It's
the amperage.

I hear that **** all the time. You do realise voltage CAUSES
current?!


You should take a refresher course on electricity, James.


Don't you even understand basic ohm's law?


Voltage is the difference in charge between two points, or it's
potential. Current is the rate at which it flows between those two
points. And resistance is the materials tendency to resist the flow
of charge. Copper has a lower resistance than aluminum so it makes
for a better conductor. If you get the copper super cold, it has
nearly no resistance to it, which makes it far easier for the current
to flow. The problem is, keeping it that cold. If you have access to
liquid nitrogen, you could try an impressive experiment with it
sometime. It would make you sick to see how much energy is lost
under normal temperatures vs keeping those same wires super cold.
Super conductors are a subject for another time though, if you're
interested.

Are you trying to play word games with me James? Aside from being
insulting in a childish way, that is.


Umm, actually, you haven't done that, either. You have proven
you're quite ignorant concerning electricity and the potential
dangers of playing with it when you don't know what you're doing,
but, I don't think you meant to do that. I admit though, I could
be wrong about that.


I've proved that TEN shocks didn't cause me any harm, just a
fright. That's quite enough to show it's nothing to be concerned
about.


Umm, no it isn't. And, you've only proven that you have a high
resistance to a point and/or don't mind getting shocked. To assume
the voltage and current you were exposed to is harmless to everyone
else is a stupid thing to do, though. As depending on the voltage and
current, it can cause anything from a mild shock to severe burns, to
cardiac arrest and/or respiration failure. It can paralyze your
muscle control and cook you from the inside out, like a microwave
cooks a hotdog.

And that's not even including the harm an arc flash can do to you, in
milliseconds. It's not something you can 'duck' if you're in it's
path. First comes the shockwave, then the arc flash you can see and
feel (heat, intense heat) along with liquified copper/aluminum or
whatever else was the conductor of the day.

I find your comments concerning my country to be rather amusing
from the standpoint that you're writing from your ass about it.
Everyone doesn't dismiss as childish stupidity. And even if
they did, some people would still try.

Please write in clear English, not Southern American chavvy
crap.


My english is clear. I don't know what Southern American chavvy
crap is?


You are harder to understand that most.


Hmm. It's been a long time since I last conversed with someone who
complained about having a hard time understanding me.

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