On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT), in
, trader_4
wrote:

The difference of course is that a hole digger is about the size of a
shovel, sits easily in the corner, and doesn't have to be mounted to
the garage floor. Tire changing eqpt is large, bulky and does have
to be floor mounted. And if I had the need to dig a bunch of holes,
I'd rent a power tool.

You prove my point with every post that people who haven't done it are
telling lies to themselves and to others.

Your *objections* to the tools are all incorrect.
You're just guessing, and you're just guessing wrong.

The real reason you don't have the tools is that you don't want to do the
job, which is ok. But just be true to yourself as to why and don't
propagate incorrect assumptions about the size of your tools.

The bead breaker and balancer are both smaller than, lighter than, and as
mobile as a good floor jack is. The mounting/unmounting tool is about the
size of a small drill press.

The mounter/unmounter does have to be bolted down but you can use recessed
female threads sunk into concrete inside or outside so that it can be
removed if you don't have the space to just leave it outside all the time.

The real reason people don't have the tools isn't the cost or the size, but
that they don't want to do the job, which is fine. But it's not that the
tools are bulky because they're not any more bulky than any other tool you
have in the shed.

You also need a compressor, by the way, but many people already have one
for their air tools, and they're no more bulky than the balancer is anyway.

It's not the cost, it's the size, bulkiness, they need to be mounted
to the garage floor. And then that you need to BALANCE the tires
after they are mounted. What's the point to having the eqpt to mount
tires, when that's only half of the process?

Every one of your statements is dead wrong, but you're welcome to your
opinion, but then, so am I welcome to explain why you're dead wrong.

The "bulkiness" of the three tools is no more bulky than tools you
*already* have in the shop (see above explanation).

Mounting to the garage floor is not needed. My mounter is mounted outside,
but it could have been mounted anywhere if I unbolt it after use (I use it
so much that I keep it bolted in, but I could easily remove it any time).

Balancing is a piece of cake given that you *mark* the location on the rim
beforehand and you put it back and check the static balance. You're only
adding a patch, which weighs, what?

I didn't make up anything.

Well then, why did you get everything wrong?
BTW, it's fine that you make everything up.
And it's even fine that you get everything wrong as a result.

All I'm asking you is to be true to yourself.
The real reason you're against the tools is that you don't want to do the
job.

Just as some people don't want to clean out their closets, you don't want
to mount tires.

That's fine.
But don't make up the fact that closets are too bulky to clean out simply
because you don't like to do the job.

Just be honest with yourself as to why you're throwing imaginary hurdles in
the air as to why *you* don't want to own tools to do the job.

The simple question was what makes a source for your patch plugs a good
one. You said you've gotten handfuls from local shops for free, you
said you know where to buy them 5 at a time online. So, what's the
problem? Without knowing what criteria are required, it can't be
answered.

The question was really simple. It still is.
Anyone can guess at an answer (I already did guess).
I was *hoping* (beyond hope it seems) to find someone who didn't just
guess.

I wanted to ask someone who had actually done the job where *they* get
their patchplugs from, in small quantities.

If nobody has bought them and used them, then nobody can help me.
It's really that simple.

It's not my first thing. My first thing for a simple nail is a rope
type plug, without taking the tire off the car. Been there, done it,
it works.

You must know that *every* tire professional will laugh at that answer.
You must know that it's *impossible* to do a *safe* job without looking at
the *inside* of the tire.

If you don't know that, then I'm wasting my time talking to you because
*everyone* knows that and *nobody* could possibly logically refute me.

Sure, you can *guess* and *assume* the tire hasn't been damaged on the
inside - but you're just guessing.

Worse. You guessed dead wrong on *every* count.

If you're so experienced, why don't you know where to source the
patch plugs?

This rhetorical question shows that you can't help anyone with your
attitude that only a *guess* from someone who has never once done the job
correctly will be able to help me.

If someone has the experience, they will know the answer.
If they don't have the experience, their guess is worse than mine is.