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On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 15:45:14 -0400, Ed Huntress
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 11:31:55 -0700, Cemetery Polka wrote:


Sounds like mine is the same arrangement.
https://www.colemanequip.com/parts/m...E-SYSTEM-0WCr/
It's not a shoe though, but a band around a drum. I cleaned
everything, lightly greased the balls, and adjusted. It works Ok on
the level, but is really crap when I'm pointed up a steep hill and
stopped trying to shift gears. I figured it surely must have worked
better when new, but a friend who knows these tractors from the old
days told me the brakes were never any good. Based on your experience
though, I'll give everything a more critical look next time it's
apart.

Ed, if you're reading this, please give your opinion on the
arrangement. The plate 35 presses against the inside of the housing.
It seems to me that the cam/ball/disc thing can only be effective IF
the band is effective, which makes it a dubious idea. Ever known
anything else that uses such a system?


Wphew, you're really asking the wrong guy. It looks to me like the
balls ride on ramps, and the drum would have to be clutched to a stop
(by the band), or nearly so, for the balls to ride up the ramps and
put pressure on the discs, right?


Exactly. I suppose it's supposed to multiply the effect of the band.
Except that the band is wimpy, and unless it's gripping sufficiently,
there isn't much pressure on the balls and the plate.

It looks like the balls are part of
a freewheeling clutch.


It's a very primitive manual brake system. One housing outboard on
each side of the transmission. Here are some pics

guts http://www.hagantractorparts.com/CaseBrakeAssembly.jpg

In this one, you can see the left brake housing just ahead of the rear
axle housing. The disc pushes against the outboard face of the
housing.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/f...mg_1620_rs-jpg

Here's one that's a little more true to life.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ractor0002.jpg
Brake housing is just below the guy's hand. Comes off easily, bands
stay with the housing. Then the drum with the disc and balls slides
off the output shaft. Points given for being easy to work on but it's
quite a bit of iron considering the anemic performance.