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On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 21:10:57 +0100, Tim Streater
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and our goods are to their specs.

They already are, so thats a complete yawn.

Until they change the specs and we will have no say in these when
outside the EU.

Then we change the product. Just as we would for product sent to any
other non-EU country.

This is trivially unimportant; stop trying to pretend it's a major
issue.

Neither you nor I know whether this will be a major issue. Many
Brexiters are claiming that the EU is making things as difficult as
possible for the UK - why should this be any different?


Becasue trade cuts both ways.

We could for example, insisr that all imported cars come with a
diamond encrusted vanity mirror, but not locally made ones.

Nope, not possible under WTO rules.

Oh but it is.

Nothing in the WTO says that products dont have to comply to local
regulations.

The WTO rules dont allow that sort of 'regulation' that only applies
to imports and not to locally made ones.

Easy enough to bend

Impossible actually.

All cars is the UK must be upoholstered in British made leather.

Not possible under WTO rules.

Export of british leather is forbidden

Not possible under WTO rules.

Thats how the EU does it pretty much.

Like hell it does. Anyone is free to import cars made in other than
the EU and plenty do just that. The only thing they have to do is
pay the tariff when they do that and that is fine under WTO rules.

What isnt possible under WTO rules is punitive tariffs that apply
only to cars coming from the EU, it has to apply to all imports.

Manufacturesrs dream up a new prodct thta will nmeet regulaqtins that dont
exist yet, and develop it, and then te regulatin gets applied and
suddenlyt certain EU manufactures have t5e pridyuct readyt, and t5e far
east does not.

Not possible under WTO rules.

Or that local regualtins can be waived for some homegrown manufacturers.

That isnt allowed under the WTO rules.

Sure is under EU rules.

Nope.

Example: All UK chickens must be reared 'humanely'

Irrelevant to trade. The WTO rules apply to trade for some weird reason.

May have something to do with what the letter T is for.

All EU chickens are suppised to be reared 'humanely' BUT certain eastern
european countries were granted exemptions till they could 'catch up' and
'build humane chicken housing'.

Still irrelevant to TRADE.

Of course, since they can undercut UK producers, they have no incentive to
comply, so the exemption is still in force.

The EU started its existence as a *protected* trade area to protect
European coal and steel from the rest of the world.

Before the current WTO rules existed.

Then it moved on to protect French agriculture, and then German
manufacturing.

Perfectly acceptable under the WTO rules, as long as the same
tariff applies regardless of where the competitive imports come
from in the absence of a trade agreement with that country.

It is still a protected trade area.

Perfectly acceptable under WTO rules.