James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 13:38:35 +0100, Mark
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 04:02:56 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 19 August 2017 01:37:25 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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The traffic shouldn't be moving when people are crossing, they
should wait until they have crossed before doing their 0-60.

IF they're ALREADY crossing, yes.

Which most are otherwisw they'd be on the pavement.

But when a pedestrian decides to cross, they should wait until
there are no vehicles approaching, or they've all spotted them
and are slowing down for them.

Depends on the incident, there's lots of accidents with just cars.
Car drivers need to know how long it will take them to stop and
what distance that translates too. According to the Royal Society for
the Prevention of Accidents
(ROSPA), the leading causes of fatal road crashes in the UK
include: Speeding

Indeed. Driving too fast gives you less time to react to hazards.

It also makes you more alert. Driving at the speed limit is
exceedingly boring to those with a properly functional brain, and you
nod off. Drive 30mph over the limit and you stay wide awake and pay
attention.
Drink-driving

I don't think we need say more about this.

Yes we do. A couple of pints makes you MORE alert. Your brain runs
on glucose, or alcohol. Either will do. I can concentrate on things
way better with a drink or two. Instead of stupidly low numerical
alcohol limits, we should have a sobriety test. Can you walk along a
white line without falling off it. If you fall off, you're unfit to
drive. A numerical limit doesn't take into account the tolerance of
different people. Consider two people, one has a single pint of beer
for the first time in his life. The other has three pints and has
drunk loads his entire life. The first is more dangerous on the
road, yet the second is the one that will get nicked. Instead of
doing people for looking like they are more likely to possibly cause
an accident, do the people that DO cause an accident, no matter if
they're drunk or sober.
Not wearing a seat belt

This only affects the driver. There are arguments suggesting that
people who do not wear seatbelts would automatically take more care.
Hence the argument to put a spike in the steering wheel.

There is no reason whatsoever for the law to intervene in this. If
someone wants to risk their OWN life, nobody else has the right to
intervene.
Careless or aggressive driving

No excuse for this.

Oh yes there is. If someone drives badly or slowly, I'll be
aggressive to the little **** that is getting in my way. There is no
excuse for going slow, or for not indicating.
Drivers who don't look

They should be banned.

If they crash. Again, simply put points on your license for each
collision.
I realise that can be annoying I've seen peds do that, but I've
seen far more cyclists going faster than they can possibly stop
in time. Those with prmas can be just as bad.

You shouldn't have to allow stopping distance for idiots.

Only idiots need stoping distances.

Explain.

You should know or have an appreciation of whether you can stop in
time to avoid any obsticle that may present itself. Of course there
are situations where you are also relying on the skills or lack of
them of other road users. This works for both NASCAR and those
piloting large ships like
tankers which have significant stopping distances.

Of course. People should be aware of their vechicle's and their own
limitations.

If a car without ABS is allowed to go 30mph, then my car with ABS
should be allowed to go faster. Would you not drive more carefully
if you changed to a car without ABS?
****ing stupid as the driver behind can't see through the vehicle
in front to know if there's something to stop for.

Why is he concerned about that ?.

Exactly. If the driver is keeping a safe distance behind the vehicle
in front (s)he has no need to know what the vehicles further ahead
are doing.

If you can see through it, you don't need the "safe distance". Why
waste road space? I do however love safety conscious fools like
yourself that leave a "stopping distance". It means I can pull out
in front of you.
Dumb motorists, if they can't follow simple rules perhaps that's
why there's accidents.

There are too many rules. A horn is simple a device to make a
noise as you can't shout when you have the windows closed. It can
be used for many things.

Yes so how is a motorist expecting to know the reason a horn is
sounding is it a warning to slow down because of an imenante
accidetn or because some arsehole has seen his mate across the road
and for some reason wants him to know he's been seen.

Of course the horn should only be used as a warning.

Dave, don't respond to JWS; he's a troll.

You don't think that idiots should be told they made a mistake? If
you don't hoot at someone who nearly crashed into you, they'll do it
again and possibly kill someone. Therefore you, by not hooting after
the event, are an accomplice to a future murder.

Prick.