In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 16 Aug 2017 05:31:00 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

On Tue 15 Aug 2017 07:28:30p, micky told us...

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:58:18 GMT, Wayne
Boatwright wrote:

On Tue 15 Aug 2017 02:49:41p, micky told us...
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In two instances I have used gutter downspouts to conceal
(contain)

So you mean put the cable inside the downspout! I thought he
just meant put the conduit in the corner between the downspout and
tthe wall??

Yes, the cable was put inside the downspout.

220 volt cable that was then buried to feed our hot tub.

Was it an actual downspout with water in it when it rained?

It was not an actual downspout to carry water. It was a section of
downspout bought specificaclly for this purpose. It didn't connect
to anything.

That would be okay. It's probably what he meant.

I'm sure you didn't have a 3" right angle connection that was hanging in
mid-air by a few inches.

I also used
it to contain (conceal) the replacement freon lines running
between the compressor and the condensor (the original had been
buried in the poured concrete slab of the house). The downspouts
were then painted the same color as the house and barely
noticieable. Besides, downspouts look normal on a house wall, not
like an ugly cable.

Since this insallation is already in place, painting the meter and
control box could also be painted.

Actually those two things look okay, and the meter isn't even
visible from the street (though I painted mine, all but the glass,
to match the house.

I'm sure there could have been better alternatives, but it's too
late now.

Right. They've been talking about this on our new neighborhood
mailing list, and I pointed out how bad it looked and how it could
have looked better. last I looked, this particular neighbor was
on the miailing list, but if she is, so be it.

Then someone else posted as both the salesman and the 5-star
reference for one of the companies. She said " I have [this brand
of] panels and my elec. went from about 290 to $47.50 and with my
XOOM elec&has my bill is about 22" This sounds very unlikely to
me. I asked how big her array is and how many watts, and if I
could go see her house.

I myself don't think solar panels are ugly, only that bloomin'
pipe.


If I were iclined to put solar panels on my roof, I would definitely
ut them on the back side of the roof, as well as any associated
equipment either mounted on the back wall or in the basement, if
there is a basement.

I wonder if she got both the front and the back. I can see the front,
but that side points north east. The south west side would be better,
plus, because we're on a hill, you can't even see the roof on the back
of the house.

Another neighbor put a light on the side of his house and instead of
running elecricty to the attic and then through the wall to the light,
they ran aluminum conduit from the porch light 20 feet sideways and 20
feet up. It sure looks ugly.

Other houses I've seen put in floodlights and instead of running cable
in the bedroom wall up one foot from a indoor receptacle and out, they
run conduit from the porch light outside the wall and it looks ugly too.

I don't think they know anything about construction and it doesn't even
occur to them how to do it right.