On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:42:04 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:24:35 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:10:00 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:03:37 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:35:39 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:23:13 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:02:09 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 21:42:13 +0100, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:56:22 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 10:15:20 +0100, wrote:

On Thursday, 20 July 2017 09:47:19 UTC+1, GB wrote:
Many countries require swimming pools to be fenced.
And here's a coroner calling for it to be mandatory in this country:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-birthday.html

Many states in the USA not only require a fence but also an emergency telephone.

The USA is over the top in everything. Everything is always someone else's fault.

I do not have kids, I hate the little monsters. I do not have a pool,
but if I did then I can fully appreciate that I have a duty of care.

No you don't. They're not your kids. If they were, you would teach them to swim.

I would guess that many of you would take a different view if one of
your kids fell into her pool.

If my kids fell into her pool, it would be my fault or my kids' fault, not hers. Take responsibility for your own actions!

When I were a lad, we didn't have child molesters spreading fear and
horror amongst tabloid readers, so we wandered around freely, fences
and water in particular was fair game for all kinds of adventures.

There are no more molesters now than there were then, we just make more fuss about it, and morons like you believe the tabloids.

I still remember a friend suspended over a gaping hole in a derelict
factory roof when the center asbestos panel plummeted to the floor
many meters below.

Children dont play by the same rules as adults, they need protection.

Do they ****. They need to look after themselves, or be taught to do so. Survival of the fittest and/or most intelligent. Stop protecting the morons, or the next generation will have more of them.

I sincerely hope that no one's negligence regarding security leads to
a death or injury, but if it did, I would certainly hope that the
courts provide a suitable deterrant for further episodes.

I am referring only to accidental injuries and drownings incidentally.

The nasty little morons that scream, shout and run around supermarkets
and the like could be thrown into the nearest pool. A few pirhana
would help make the episode a little more satisfying.

Go live in America, we don't want childish little ****wits like you here any more. The only person to blame for dying is that person themselves. Fall over something, you should have looked where you're going, don't blame the person who made the path. ****'s sake crawl back into your little lawyer hole.

I can sympathise with your approach.

I am of the opinion that H&S regulations mean that people who should
not soil the planet with their genes are being artificially propogated
by the actions of the HSE.

Like it or not, we do have a duty of care however. You can shout about
it and stamp your feet as much as you wish, but you also share that
duty of care to ensure that your actions are carried out in a manner
that provides reasonable care for those you or your activities impinge
upon.

Only in your warped opinion. If you fall down a hole, you should have looked where you were putting your own two feet. Stop expecting everyone else to do everything for you. You're a pathetic waste of space.

I would hazard a guess that being thick wouldn't go too far legally,
so if I were you, I'd play it safe and buy the fencing.

If someone else's kid falls into my pond or pool, he shouldn't have been in my garden, so it's his fault.

If my own kid falls in, he'd have been taught how to swim in the first place.

I have little doubt that "swimming" would be entirely natural. Maybe
he'd need a bit of help crawling out though.

You're making absolutely no sense at all.

Duty of care begins with YOURSELF, and ends there.

The law of the land would have a differing opinion methinks.

The law of the land is wrong, and anyone who agrees with it is an idiot, or so stupid that they can't think for themselves and have to follow pathetic little rulebooks.

No wonder everything is so expensive in the UK and China is beating us hands down. They just get on with it while we just sit around checking each other is safe.

Well I can definately see your point. They have you beaten hands down,
I'm certain.

Have you tried carrots?

No they haven't, only about 5% of people believe in health and softy, it's less common than religion.

No you didn't read the question. They don't need them. Have you
yourself, or indeed your semi amphibious son tried carrots?

You may actually be an afficionado of H&S procedures without even
realising it.

AB