On 02/07/2017 18:05, Roland Perry wrote:
In message om, at
17:02:42 on Sun, 2 Jul 2017, "dennis@home"
remarked:

A picture has re-surfaced, that was posted online right after the
fire -
showing a boiler apparently just inside a flat's front door. And loads
of copper *hot water* pipes. Also another picture showing what are
claimed to be cast iron pipes taking gas into individual flats from
the
communal areas.

This is what I don't understand. One resident interviewed early on
mentioned the work done in her flat not being anywhere near the
standard
of the show flat - and specifically saying her boiler had just been
thrown
in. Ie very untidily installed. But then no mention of individual
boilers
on the K&C site. Just of a new communal system.
The plot thickens. Today it is reported that tenants of neighbouring
properties are having their rent suspended because they don't have
hot water, the central plant having been destroyed in the Grenfell fire.


The plot will continue to thicken..

however it is quite easy to see that the cladding destroyed the building

*but*

the poor design/maintenance of the core killed the people.

The enquiry may say so if and when it reports.

The core wasn't designed to stop fire arriving through the windows on
almost all flats on all floors simultaneously. That's a problem with the
cladding.

AFAICS the core wasn't designed at all.

If a flat was on fire you should have been safe to move into the core
and then go down the stairs and escape.
It shouldn't matter that other flats were on fire.

A proper enquiry will find out why the core failed and so many couldn't
get out. The cladding is a side issue and may well be hiding the real
issues.

It doesn't really matter if a block of flats burns down if everyone can
get out and that is the real issue.

Who is looking at what really killed the people while everyone is going
on about the cladding?


As I see it the enquiry is just an exercise in avoiding the truth.

If you have an erroneous preconception about the truth, then you are
doomed to think that.

Yes I can see why that is true.

This is the same issue as the twin towers, many people died because the
core was a crap design and they were trapped. The planes didn't
immediately destroy the buildings but they did destroy the poorly built
stairs. The lifts were inside a structural concrete tube but the stairs
were outside that and only protected by plasterboard.