On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 1:38:49 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:39:40 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

The cause was a simple fire that should have been easy to contain and
stop. We often complain about regulations, but they would have saved
lives here. Looks like most of the world does not allow flammable
material, but the Brits allow it.

No , the Brits don't allow it on buildings over something like 9
meters high. The regulations SPECIFICALLT do not allow it to be used
as it was on high-rizes - but nobody is doing proper inspections, and
nobody is following the regulations.

Where did that come from? Did you even read the NYT article?
It said exactly the opposite, that UK had no regulations saying
it could not be used as it was. Which isn't that surprising
considering they allowed it to be built in the first place
with no fire alarms, no sprinklers, no firescape, one stairwell.
And then just now they allowed it to be renovated without
requiring any of the above.



You can regulate an industry to
within an inch of it's life, but if the regulations are not enforced,
or are not enforced uniformly, those in the industry know what they
can get away with, and where they can cut corners without being caught
- so the regulations are totally ineffective.
I also find it unconscionable for Alcoa to make a product that is known
to burn and is not approved in much of the wold. Hey, it cheaper and
the Brits will buy it. A bunch of people should end up in jail from this.

There are many applications where the darn stuff is legal, and eveb
relatively safe. Just like styrofoam (or EPS) insulation board. It is
"safe" when covered with drywall, but is NOT safe to be used where it
is left exposed. How many places do you see it glued to a basement
wall, or nailed up in a garage, and left totallt exposed???
Should it be illegal for it to be made and sold (for it's intended
purpose) just because idiots use it where they shouldn't?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/24/w...ndon-fire.html