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On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 20:24:53 +0100, bert wrote:


Oh didn't realise you were that old, or are you like a lot of those
born in the immediate years after WW2 who exhibit a tendency possibly
brought on by passing bomb sites on the way to school to think that
they themselves took an active part

It's the same generation that grew up with the benefits of the new
NHS, and many of which have benefited from free further education,
relatively cheap housing some if it bought under the right to buy
council houses ,decent company pension schemes ,not a few getting
large redundancy packages along the way and are now retired with a bus
pass and winter fuel payments
But it was always down to bad management or the Unions never the fault
of them actually being selfish *******s who are now old selfish
****ers probably called Bert and wearing a Cardigan and still mentally
fighting the Germans like Daddy did.

G.Harman
I was actually born before the NHS.
So you closely fit the bill of the type of person I was describing and
unless you are exceptionally old or have had health care provided
privately throughout your life you will have grown up taking the
benefit of it with a gaping maw like a fledgling accepting a worm from
its parent.
Wrongs again! Can't remember when I last went to a GP. Am not on any
medication. Given the amount of tax I paid, especially when I sold my
business the NHS is probably a few quid up.
From that gaping maw you then despise the idea of socialist principles
today having benefited from one of the main ones.
Bait put out and swallowed , thanks for confirming that are what I
thought you are a full member of the Hypocritical generation
However my use of Bert was just as much influenced by it being one
of my Grand ads names and popular many years ago but now only common
amongst Coffin dodgers like yourself. Like many of that era he
believed everything written in the Paper was the truth as well.

Actually Albert is making a comeback. But what's a "Grand ad"
What a bitter twisted little person you are but typical of the modern
generation who expect everything handed to them on a plate.

As I'm in my early 60's I'll take modern generation as a complement
thank you and having had a work ethic since I was strong enough to do
jobs was able to organize my life well enough to retire at 55 a few
years back.
Well funnily enough so did I.
That has meant that a lot of people I see and talk to
during the day while doing voluntary work etc are those 10 to 15 years
older than myself as you must be (or older) and it is very interesting
the differences in attitude to things those few years make.
Well so do I.

A lot like I said earlier seem to think that because they were around
during WW2 as Children or born just after when it was still a main
talking subject amongst the elders around them that puts them on par
with those who are entitled to campaign medals.
Only in your twisted little mind. Most people don't talk about the actual
detail.
We lived in a valley with a reservoir a the head and my mother did once
tell me that she and others fled to higher ground one night as the Germans
were attempting to bomb it - but that was before I was born so doesn't
count in your eyes.
They then had a good start in the economic conditions of the 50's when
for those who desired they could do very well as there more job
vacancies than people and a roof over your head was easier to get than
today, it might not have been luxurious but at least it was likely to
be a home rather than an insecure bed sit that a youngster today is
faced with.
I can remember rationing, having to take your coupons with you to buy a
bag of sweets.
I can remember people living in "temporary" concrete prefabs for decades
I can remember you had to queue for a mortgage and you couldn't even join
the queue if you didn't have a savings record with the building society
I can remember that the maximum house price for a mortgage was 3 time mans
salary and wife's earnings could not be taken into account.
I can remember tenants had absolutely no rights whatsoever and this was
exploited by people like Rachmann.
I can remember you stood no chance of getting a council house unless you
knew someone.
I can remember there was no such thing as consumer rights, so if you were
fortunate enough to be buying a used car check for sawdust in the gearbox
and check there were no wooden pistons. Caveat Emptor ruled.
I can remember a song "yes we have no bananas" which was a comment on the
black market in food in the post war era.
I can remember living under the constant threat of nuclear war.

You're too young to remember any of this.
Calling that generation of which you are part Hypocrites doesn't make
me bitter and twisted it makes me a realist.
You've been reading all that crap from Willetts.
You only have to look at
the recent election results to see how your lot suddenly squealed and
whined when it looked liked you may have to share some of the assets
built up so those younger won't be quite so burdened with your bills.

Blame the labour party for promising to give everything free. After all
the students voted for free tuition - worth c£40k -and who can blame them?
I don't. But then I accept democracy, warts and all.
G. Harman
And the alternative is? - oh yes pass on the assets to the young along
with the tens of billions already transferred in the form of ridiculously
low interest rates and the £60bn contribution to the economy form older
people.
The issues in our society are nothing to do with age.
bert

spot on bert in all respects .......quality