On 6/9/2017 9:01 AM, Jack wrote:
On 6/7/2017 10:24 AM, Leon wrote:
On 6/7/2017 9:11 AM, Jack wrote:
On 6/6/2017 11:17 PM, wrote:
I can't imagine that being a satisfactory long term solution to
finishing. No abrasion resistance, no UV (or even light) resistance,
no idea of what the long term effects of full exposure to the
elements will do the finish. Open to the air instead of hidden in a
joint, will it get hard, then brittle? Will it yellow or muddy?
If I was going to do that I would wipe some lacquer from a dauber or
use a polyurethane conversion product.
I used super glue as a pen finish for a while, but found it
unsatisfactory. Plenty of other home brews out there that worked
better.
Glue is designed to glue, finish to finish. Switching them around
never sounded good to me. If it was a good idea, glue makers or finish
makers would perfect it and sell it as a finish with known results.
They probably already have.
I think it all has to do with potential sales. 3M makes or used to make
a product commonly referred to as Old Yeller. It was a weatherstrip
adhesive but used more often as a gasket sealant on engines. 3M made a
gasket adhesive but mechanics used the less expensive Old Yeller.
Never saw anyone use old yeller, everyone I knew used Permatex, a
product designed for the purpose. That was 50 years ago, and I don't
think anything has changed.
different preferences for different locations. I bought old yeller
about 3 cases at a time.
Another good example, TopKote. Originally manufactured by Empire and
sold as a metal surface lubricant. Bostitch bought the product and sold
it for many years with the same name but it was intended to be used as a
rust preventative. The original was a great rust preventative too.
I don't know about Empire, but also 40 years ago I used 3M dry lubricant
before Bostik TopCote existed. It worked exactly as TopCote does today,
and in fact, the cans look almost identical. I suspect 3-M sold the
product or patent to whomever makes Topcote now, but it's just a guess.
It was Empire that had TopCote before, I began using it around 1989. It
was in a pump bottle vs. aerosol. TopCote was bought by Bostik and
recently renamed the product as GlideCote
http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube1.jpg
http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube2.jpg
Not exactly the same. Have you used the 3M for your metal wood working
surfaces? TopCote specifically says that it will not be a problem for
finishes.
This is one of Empires most recent products.
https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Manufa.../dp/B0000EI96N
Point is, the product was designed as a lubricant and moisture barrier
for machine parts, and it works exactly as designed, and required by
woodworkers on iron table tops. Homemade remedies are not even close to
as good, just as I suspect glue vs finish would fare.
Agreed, the home remedies do not hold up as well as the products
specifically made to prevent rust. Granted home remedies probably work
for some people but not all.