On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 14:41:43 +1000, Trevor Wilson
wrote:
On 10/06/2017 3:20 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:01:08 +1000, Trevor Wilson
wrote:
**My Windows 10 laptop boots in less than 30 seconds, is speedy and easy
to use. It is MUCH faster than any Win XP machine I've owned. All done
without an SSD too.
It boots that fast because it never really shut down. Try disabling
Windoze 10 "fast startup" feature and time how long it takes when it
has to load everything from scratch:
https://in.answers.acer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/37059/~/windows-10%3A-enable-or-disable-fast-startup
**Are you suggesting that Windows 10 is, somehow, magically operating on
my laptop?
Well, yes. You stated:
"**My Windows 10 laptop boots in less than 30 seconds..."
which suggests that your laptop is under the control of Microsoft
Windoze 10. Further resistance is futile. You have been assimilated.
A laptop, I might add, that has the battery removed, because
I only run it on mains power?
Unless you have the power management set to reduce the CPU speed when
running on battery, your laptop should operate at the same speed on
either battery or mains power. I've run my own benchmarks comparing
XP and Win 10. However, the comparison isn't fair. I never could get
64 bit Windoze XP to work reliably, so all my XP machines are running
32 bit. Most of my Win 10 machines are running 64 bit. The machines
that were intentionally or surreptitiously upgraded ran a mix of 32
and 64 bit Win 10. The difference in speed between 32 and 64 bit Win
10 was sufficient for me to justify loading 64bit Win 10 from scratch.
So, if you're comparing the speed of XP and Win 10, you're comparing a
32 bit XP, which is limited to 3.5GB of RAM, with 64 bit Win 10 which
can use far more RAM. Apples and oranges.
AFAIK, when I switch on a laptop, which
has no battery connected, then that qualifies as a 'cold boot'.
Methinks we have different definitions of "cold boot". I'm referring
to the time it takes from starting the laptop from a power off state
to when it is ready to use. When you disable "fast startup", a
similar hardware XP machine should boot at approximately the same
speed, mostly depending on how many background programs need to be
started.
What the "fast startup" feature does (which incidentally is enabled by
default in Windoze 10) only partly shuts down when you turn off the
computah. This explains it better than I can:
https://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/
Windoze 8.1 has the same features (which incidentally are disabled by
default) but with slightly different feature names:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-windows-8-hybrid-shutdown-fast-boot-feature-works/
Opinions vary on whether "fast startup" is a good or bad thing. In
general, I find it beneficial and harmless on most systems. However,
about once a month, I get a customer call for various boot time errors
that are eventually traced to "fast startup" and are cleared by doing
a full shutdown. I also have similar problems when running Win 10
inside a virtual machine (both VMware and Virtual Box). So far,
nobody has lost data, so I think you're safe to leave it running[1].
Nine different ways to do a full (and other) shutdowns in Win 10:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/7418-shut-down-computer-windows-10-a.html
Note that if you have "fast startup" enabled, and turn off your
computah, you cannot force it to do a full boot. You have to do the
full shutdown first, before it will load everything from scratch.
If you need more detail, please ask. It's midnight and I've had a
long day which included living on party food. I expect to survive but
right now, my brain is almost off-line.
[1] I turn off "fast startup" and sell my customers an SSD if they
want more speed. In general, an SSD will make everything go 3X to 5X
faster.
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