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On Wednesday, 24 May 2017 19:51:22 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Tuesday, 23 May 2017 21:03:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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You have no idea what the impedance of
the supply is with that PARTICULAR fluoro.

Most supplies are a very low impedance,

Most is irrelevant with faults.

How much power would be dissipated in a faulty 'electro' to
cause
a
meaningful fluctuation in voltage?

Depends on the state of the supply to the fluoro.

If the mains wiring has caught fire & is providing power
through a layer of charcoal, you might be right.
In the other 99.999% of cases you are as usual talking out of
somewhere
dark.

Doesnt need to do anything even remotely
like that to see the fluoros flicker with a bad cap.

reams of your **** flushed where it belongs

Yet you're hopelessly unable to explain your point of view.

Everyone can see you are lying thru your ****ing teeth, as always.

Please quote your explanation from this thread then.

Go and find it yourself.

Several of us looked, there was none

Lying thru your ****ing teeth, as you always do
when done like a ****ing dinner, as you always are.

I said that a bad cap can see the voltage the tubes
get produce flicker, particularly when the feed to
the fitting hasnt been done as well as it could be

too vague to be meaningful

You never could bull**** and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.

or has a fault that sees a higher impedance than normal

what fault do you think would produce that?

A wiring fault, ****wit.

which doesnt produce the flicker until the cap goes bad.

And an explanation is irrelevant anyway when removing
the cap is so easy to do and proves if the cap is the problem.

it proves no such thing of course.

Corse it does when putting it back sees it flicker again.

Only pig ignorant lying bull**** artists like you two
would actually be stupid enough to proclaim that
no bad cap could ever produce any flickering.

I explained exactly how it could.

More of your lies.

I also said that it's unlikely in the extreme.

Irrelevant to what is possible. Caps fail, ****wit.

And you'll have to pardon us if we have noticed
that Adam sees a hell of a lot more faults than
you two will ever see and is much more likely
to know whats possible than you two clowns.

a) that proves nothing

You never could bull**** and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.

b) as mentioned such a scenario is more likely due to disturbing a bad
connection.

But trivial to prove its the cap by seeing the
fault return when the cap is connected again.

Even a terminal ****wit such as yourself should be able
to manage that if someone was actually stupid enough
to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, again.

A bad cap simply has nothing to do with it.

There you go again, proclaiming that a cap can't do that.

They either
a) lose capacitance, causing no flicker, or
b) ESR rises, causing no flicker, or
c) go leaky, causing no flicker, or

That can see the voltage across the tubes reduced when there
is also significant resistance in the wiring to the fluoro, ****wit.

d) arc over, blowing a fuse or fusing themselves. No further flicker.

Further down the thread you say
There can obviously be a poor connection that
doesnt see any flicker until there is also a bad cap.

PF capacitors in fluoros actually reduce current consumption,

But dont do that AFTER THEY HAVE FAILED, ****wit.

so they would marginally improve things
in such a case, if at all functional.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

If thoroughly shot the problem causing flicker is the bad connection,
not the cap, which is never going to draw enough current to cause this.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage,
when the leakage and a poor connection in the wiring
produces a voltage divider that sees the tubes flicker.

reams of your **** any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Keep furiously digging, you'll be out in china any day now, ****wit child.