On 19/05/2017 19:37, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , James Harris
wrote:

On 19/05/2017 00:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
James Harris wrote:

I didn't. It was YOU who brought animosity into the discussion. Europe
is a beautiful place. And the people of Europe are our friends and
neighbours.

Friends and neighbours you wish to distance yourself from?

No, I don't want to get away from them.

I don't want a group of European politicians to be able to overrule the
government that Brits elect, if that's what you mean. But that's not
because they are Europeans. They could be from Mongolia or Timbuktu and
it would make no difference.

I repeat: You are claiming an animosity which is not there.

But it's what Dave does, so don't be surprised. He sets up his own
straw and bogey men and then claims you are in favour of them.

Yeh, right. Claim 'Europe' are our friends and neighbours.

They are.

But don't trust them.

That was never mentioned.

Don't want to co-operate with them.

No, the exact opposite is the case.

And certainly don't want to
contribute in any way to the poorer ones.

That's one way the EU could help the poorer countries - by making
financial transfers from rich to poor nations. But do you see any sign
of the EU doing that? I don't. Where's this supposed brotherhood of
nations that you love so much? Why is it sitting on its hands when its
members are suffering and when it itself has caused a large amount of
their problems? While the leaders live on vast incomes and expenses,
feed themselves at our expense, have a cellar of something like 42,000
bottles of wine, are driven around by liveried chauffeurs etc, what are
they going to do to sort out the problems their ideas have caused to
real people?

I don't see them taking any action. Nada. In fact, when they get to talk
about change what kind of change do they want to make? Even though their
ideas - Euro, FoM of persons, CAP, protectionism, centralisation, etc -
caused the problems that Europe is experiencing, their solutions are,
incredibly, to take more power to themselves. They. Just. Don't. Get. It.


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James Harris