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Default Emergence of Re-leavers

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James Harris wrote:
You've not heard May today? At last has admitted that the future of
the UK relies on a good deal after leaving the EU. Which gives me hope
that with a large majority she will be able to ignore the hardliners
in her party. And all the other UKIP nutcases too.


Just to check, where did your belief come from before today? You didn't
just see cause for alarm.


As for May, what she predicts is not gospel. Let's get that straight
first of all.


Plenty took what Farage and his cronies predicted as gospel. And voted on
those promises.


She was a Remainer and still has never said that Brexit
will be better, albeit that she has accepted the result and seeks to
make the best of it.


My guess is the deal we end up with won't be better than before all this
nonsense started. Most likely worse in some ways. But designed to satisfy
those who talk about sovereignty and other such meaningless things.

As for the deal, there are three broad outcomes


1. A negotiated trade agreement
2. A decision to go to WTO trade
3. An acrimonious breakdown of talks


Only option 3 is "crashing out" of the EU.


Which could be done now.

Option 2 is what the EU propose (so is achievable). It is not as good as
option 1 but it is not too bad, especially since the EU accepts that
they and we would want a phased implementation.


How do you think that any different from 2 ?

Far worse than option 2 would be the UK accepting a punitive deal. And I
guess that's what May was warning about. She says she simply will not
accept such a deal from the EU, preferring to go to option 2 rather than
a bad option 1.


Punitive deal is just so much more jargon. There is zero chance of getting
a trade and services deal with the EU without paying for it. And May knows
this.

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