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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons
ago
that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly
and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows
from
the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
Max Demian

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be
fertilized
instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER
been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I
believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser
does
nothing
at all.

Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.

Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some
house
plants
that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a
cactus
that
was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become
healthier.

Because the problem wasn't a lack of fertiliser,
the problem was that the cat sat on it.

But the solution is fast growth.

Not possible once the cat has sat on it.

Spider plants are pretty resilient, getting squashed doesn't kill
it.

Obviously didn't do it much good.

Dunno. I decided to help it by removing it from where the cat sleeps.

I obviously moved it to a windowledge where the cat doesn't go.

And it still didn't do very well.

It did very well, with or without the fertiliser.

Most commercial crops do a lot better with fertiliser.

Depends what's in the soil.

Nope, because commercial crops quite quickly deplete the
soil of what it once had before used for commercial crops.

That's why the most primitive agriculture is slash and burn,
to use new virgin soil when they havent invented fertiliser.

Exactly, but the same does not apply to house plants.

It does actually. House plant soil has nothing
left in it and just physically holds up the plants.

Yet they do just as well without fertiliser as with it.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other
uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...

MJ doesn't need such things.

It does grow well with hydroponics.

What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil?

Easier to completely automate. Plants don't actually
need soil, just something to put the roots into so they
don't fall over etc. We used rockwool or scoria or even
nothing at all with some plants like tomatoes that are
staked for other reasons.

Why does soil stop automation?

It doesn't, but it's a lot easier to automate with hydroponics.

Why?

With soil you have to sterilise it periodically, kill the nematodes
etc.

With hydroponics, flush the water down the drain and start with new
water.

Surely the bacteria in the soil is what gives the plant nutrients,
like
nitrogen compounds.

Sure, but there is other stuff like nematodes that **** the plants.

Only thing I've had ****ing a plant are scale insects.

But you don't do commercial crops.

How dot he crops know they're going to be sold?

They don't need to.

Then what is the difference?

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In 1839, the imperial Chinese commissioner Lin Zexu wrote a letter to Queen Victoria warning that, unless the British stopped supplying opium to China, he would cut off rhubarb supplies to Britain, killing everyone through mass constipation.