On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:16:54 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:15:24 -0400, wrote:

As far as computers are concerned, I've given up building them - I
buy ready built with a warranty and I keep my hair!!!

Ditto. 20 years ago I could make 3-5 hundred dollars and still be
under a market retail cost for a lesser machine.

Just bought the bride a new machine under $500. 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD,
Win10 and the whole 9 yards -- less a monitor. An ASUS which is a very
good mobo.
Used to be I could make a 50% profit on a machine - either pre-built
or self assembled. And that was 50% of a lot more than what I sell one
for today.
Today there is barely $50 in a high end machine. I'm better off to
sell it at cost and bill my time spec'ing and ordering it at $50 an
hour. I don't even advertise selling computers any more - just
"technical services and consulting". The web-site still mentions
"Computer and Network Sales and Service"