On 04/26/2017 08:13 PM, Diesel wrote:

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Use a search engine for 'key fob'. They have a start/stop button. No
key. Although, some actually do have a place for a real key (usually
under the dash) in the event the battery in your key fob is dead OR,
you misplaced the damn thing.

So it's a matter of differing definitions of "real". I'd consider the
fob to be a key. Different from an old physical key, but just as real.
The same for some people with an implanted chip. That's a key too.

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