On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 6:27:09 AM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:
trader_4
Mon, 10
Apr 2017 16:21:57 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 5:59:56 AM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:
As I've told you before, despite your personal opinion
disagreeing with me, A security update IS an update.
Again, if you paid attention, I just told you that despite your
claims, I never said that a security update isn't an "update". I
said that support involves a lot more than just security updates,
that Mozilla has announced the end of Firefox for XP, that they
have discontinued all support for Firefox EXCEPT SECURITY UPDATES.
And even that they have only guaranteed for 5 more months. That
anyone would argue that makes for a "supported" browser, in the
context of someone looking to upgrade a system and run XP for the
future, is just plain silly.
Technically, it IS a supported browser,
Just having security updates is not a supported product. If you're
as familiar with software products as you claim to be, then you'd
know that security updates are just the last part of product
support to go when it's being discontinued. Firefox
has clearly stated that they are ending support and that their users
should move to another browser and platform. Again, what was the
CONTEXT? Someone upgrading a system for the future. Good grief,
you're dense. Just because Firefox is committed to another whopping 5 months of only security updates, you just had to chime in and steer the
OP in the wrong direction. And to top it off, this is for XP, and
MSFT isn't even providing security updates for XP itself. Yet you
claim Firefox on XP is "supported"? ROFL
for the time being. And,
choosing to invest in new hardware to run XP if the machine isn't
running XP specific software for a dedicated purpose is a total
waste of money, time, and resources. The future doesn't include XP
for normal end users.
Wow, that's reassuring. Kind of like saying the car gas gauge is
on empty, but the engine hasn't quite quit running yet.
That's a **** poor comparison, but, I understand your need to provide it.
It's not going to be much of a future for the individual,
Wow, you think?
I didn't state otherwise...
Despite your weak efforts to paint me as a liar, I haven't done
that...
Yes you have. You said that Firefox is continuing updates for
Firefox on XP beside just security updates. That is not true.
No, I haven't lied. I specifically stated:
Message-ID:
You must not know much about the subject, then. Firefox will still
support XP until 2017. And firefox isn't exactly a 'niche' browser.
In response to what you wrote:
Message-ID:
IDK of any browser company that is still doing updates of any
browsers for XP.
Which isn't accurate, atleast, not yet. Mozilla is still doing
updates for Firefox (a browser) that still runs on XP. Versions
prior to 45.0.8 were still getting minor bugfixes that were not
'security' only related. I already shared the url showing that. I
even pasted it:
Message-ID: XnsA7533DEC0297AHT1@EF5v6vvo88Gb99jhRCMLUhBs9ll7m D.42huA6plCP3M1.sr5O0fzFj25Fz4tqWE
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/securi...firefoxesr45.8
They aren't all security updates as you can see.
Look at 45.3 and down:
45.3 was released in 2016, years past Windows XP eol.
Fixed in Firefox ESR 45.3
2016-80 Same-origin policy violation using local HTML file and saved shortcut file
2016-79 Use-after-free when applying SVG effects
2016-78 Type confusion in display transformation
2016-77 Buffer overflow in ClearKey Content Decryption Module (CDM) during video playback
2016-76 Scripts on marquee tag can execute in sandboxed iframes
2016-73 Use-after-free in service workers with nested sync events
2016-72 Use-after-free in DTLS during WebRTC session shutdown
2016-70 Use-after-free when using alt key and toplevel menus
2016-67 Stack underflow during 2D graphics rendering
2016-65 Cairo rendering crash due to memory allocation issue with FFmpeg 0.10
2016-64 Buffer overflow rendering SVG with bidirectional content
2016-63 Favicon network connection can persist when page is closed
2016-62 Miscellaneous memory safety hazards (rv:48.0 / rv:45.3)
Idiot, that is the PAST! Mozilla has clearly said, NOTHING BUT SECURITY
UPDATES and those only for 5 months!
At this point, the discussion derailed in what you consider support
to be. And, I understand your need to do that, too. You were wrong
with your initial comment.
****, I just realized you're a google groups groupie. Why not use a
real usenet client and provider? 
Another example of why you're an idiot. Now you want to start the
silly BS of "my way of engaging with newsgroups is better than yours"
ROFL!
Your idea of a 'reasonable' person differs from mine..
I think everyone here would agree with that. Your idea of reasonable
is that a normal smartphone has to be avoided in favor of a burner
phone.
and your
statement about not knowing of any browser still supported on XP, is
wrong. Firefox, IS. Your idea of supported obviously differs from
mine in this case, too.
Your efforts to redefine terms to suit you obviously make no
difference to me. Supported is Supported. Your red herring
arguments, aside.
Do you deny that support for browsers includes more than just security updates? That Mozilla provides all that support for Firefox on Win 7,
Win 10, but no longer for Firefox on XP? That Mozilla has ended all
support OTHER THAN SECURITY UPDATES and even that is committed to for
only 5 months?
Do you deny that the context of the OP's question was upgrading a
typical desktop system for the future? Do you deny that Mozilla has
said that users of Firefox on XP should move to a SUPPORTED OS and a
SUPPORTED browser because they are eoling Firefox XP?
I didn't lie about anything, I didn't try to BS anybody. Your
accusations towards me are not accurate. You just didn't appreciate
my correcting your inaccurate statement and exposing your lack of
knowledge on the subject. It's that simple.
Yes, it is that simple. If the OP listened to you, he's think Firefox
on XP is swell, a supported browser for the future.
To your credit though,
I've never seen you claim to be an IT expert. If you did, I'd have
to call bull**** on that too.
[snip rest of your garbage].
You already lost when you resorted to lame personal attacks, false
accusations (lying? wtf? really?),
Yes, you are lying. You lied when you said that I claimed that Firefox
was no longer providing any updates of any kind for Firefox on XP.
You lied when you said that Firefox is continuing to provide updates
beyond security updates. And you badly mislead the OP by implying
that Firefox for XP is a supported choice for a browser today and the
future.