On 27/03/17 09:37, Nightjar wrote:
On 26-Mar-17 12:58 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/03/17 12:28, Nightjar wrote:
On 26-Mar-17 9:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 26/03/17 09:16, Nightjar wrote:
On 25-Mar-17 8:18 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/03/17 19:54, Nightjar wrote:
On 25-Mar-17 5:33 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
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Duh. Farage isnt relevant to anything but immigrants, stupid.

Since the referendum, he hasn't been relevant to anything, which is
likely annoying the hell out of him. He probably thought that being
the
UKIP spokesperson would keep him in TV appearances for donkeys
years.


Only half the goals of UKIP look like they MIGHT be achieved.

As I doubt that he ever saw UKIP as anything other than a vehicle for
promoting Nigel Farage, that isn't relevant either.

You couldn't be more wrong.

You shouldn't judge him by the standards you judge a professional
politician like e.g. Farron or Corbyn.

I judge people by what they say and do, not by stereotypes. On the basis
of that, I rank Nigel Farage as rather less trustworthy than Tony Blair.
I don't expect you to agree.

Have you actually ever heard him speak?

I have watched him in interviews.

Or just what was reported out of context in the guardian/BBC etc etc.?

Reports suggest that he generated some outright lies, such as that over
70% of UK legislation originates with the EU and that membership of the
EU costs us over £50 million a day. Are you now claiming that these were
somehow taken out of context and he really meant that around 2 out of 3
pieces of UK legislation that were active in 2014 were entirely home
grown, or that the actual cost of belonging to the EU is around £17
million, after allowing for the rebate and the amounts we receive back
in aid?


You have entirely taken the remarks out of context. And weaselled them

They are in fact true.

Legislation is not just bills that go through parliament. Legislation is
anything that carries the force of law and the EU generates thousands of
regulations that never get debated that pass into law every year.

And the cost of that legislation and complying with it vastly exceeds
the direct cost of money transferred to the EU.

I guess you are a labour voter: That sort of sophistry reached its peak
with tony blair.


As far as doing, he said once brexit was achieved he was out. He has
uniquely for a politician stood by that.

UKIP is no longer of use to him.

Proof by assertion?






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"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher