On 3/11/17 6:35 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote:
In article ros8cchrufpfgnoam5tsgb446usf0n8mkt@ 4ax.com,
says...
-MIKE- wrote:
On 3/11/17 1:52 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
woodchucker wrote:
On 3/10/2017 9:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
Speaking of bad woodworking shows.... I stopped by the
Nashville Home & Remodeling Show this afternoon. It's
not a woodworking show, per se, but it was still pretty
terrible.
There were a couple of saving grace booths, however. A
door hardware source that is right in my little town that
can get special orders overnight and they are starting to
carry cabinet door hinges.
The second was a specialty bit and blade company right in
Nashville that makes really great cutting blades, drill
bits, and router bits... router bits that can be used on
solid surface materials, aluminum, marble, etc. This
company also makes all-purpose drill bits from very, very
hard cutter head material that can bore through porcelain
tiles right after cutting through hardened tool metals.
The guy took the same bit and drilled through a grade 8
bolt, and metal file, a metal lathe cutting head, then
straight to concrete, ceramic and porcelain tiles.
I was very impressed and bought this pack of bits at the
show price of $100.
https://millnertools.com/collections...ose-drill-bits
Now, I know what you're thinking. "A hundred bucks for a 13 pack of
drill bits!!" Well, yeah, that's what I thought, too,
until I added up what I spent in bits last year just for
putting up safety grab bars on tiled bathroom walls. I
probably spend on average, $17/ea for ceramic bits and
upwards of $30 for diamond bits and none of them lasted
longer than 2 jobs. I was just figuring the cost of the
bit into the job. Now I don't have to worry about having
the right bits.
Best part about these bits.... LIFETIME, unconditional
replacement guarantee. For 2 bucks shipping, they replace
the bit, no questions asked.
Oh, and did I mention they're GREEN? :-) I'll do a
follow-up after I've put some of these bits through some
hard work.
There was a company about 8 years ago, I think BAD DOG
drill bits. Same thing. They were at the wood working
shows. Doing the files, tiles, etc.
Yes it was Bad Dog Tools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4QEZ6uAwlc
I wonder if they went under, because it's hard to find anything
official from them. Website is down and someone on Amazon with
their name is selling left-overs of only two products.
Their web server could be down or they might be out of busniess.
Hard to say for sure.
This Joe Strong web site still works ;-)
note the single 'l' http://milnertools.com/
Bad dog seems to be back up.
That said, before buying ask them to drill a file that _you_
provide so you can be sure that they actually perform on real files
and not file-like objects made of, say, cheese.
IF there was a magic drill material available that would handle
abuse like that, EVERY large bit manufacturer (Bosch, Milwaukee,
Dewalt etc) would rush to it immediately. Some trade show demos are
like a carnival hawker's magic show in that you aren't really seeing
what it seems you are seeing.
Welp, I tried them out.
I took one and drilled through a porcelain tile that took me about
10-15minutes to go through with a diamond bit. It worked fine and took
about 4-5 minutes with water cooling.
I then I took the same bit to some typical, hardware store, cold rolled,
bar stock.
Took about 30 seconds to even make a dent. A 30cent steel bit would've
gone through it in about 15 seconds.
So I got had. No big deal. I'll get my money back and chalk the
inconvenience up to stupid tax. Had a great day off with the wife and
enjoyed our time together.
I'll tell you this, though. If they give me any trouble at all, they
will suffer my wrath like no one can imagine. :-)
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-MIKE-
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