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mike[_22_]

On 3/6/2017 9:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:29:22 -0800, mike wrote:

On 3/6/2017 8:58 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I am (was?) considering getting a touchless faucet for the kitchen sink.

Moen has a faucet that we like the looks of. We watched a few videos and the feature
that I liked was the control box that allowed you set the temperature of the water when the
faucet was activated by the touchless sensor. SWMBO and I thought that setting the temp
to warm would be good for washing hands, which is probably the time that we would not
want to touch the faucet. Meat juices, sticky messes, etc.

Well, it turns out that the adjustable control box was only used on the first generation
of Moen's touchless faucets and no longer available. The water will be at whatever
temperature the handle was last left at. To adjust the temperature once it is turned on
via the touchless sensor, you have to....wait for it....*touch* the handle.

So, without that feature, I'm not sure a touchless faucet is worth the extra money,
other than for the novelty.

I'm looking for opinions from those have tried them or opted not to get one for a specific
reason.

Unless you have a circulating hot water system, expecting a specific
water temperature for a random activation is optimistic.
But a maximum temperature is not.
A thermostatic mix valve will assure the water never gets hotter than
so hot, and gets to that temperature as quickly as possible(unlike a
fixed mix valve)

I believe that's a true statement, but does it apply?
If the flow required to get some warm water to the tap is more than
the total amount
of water you need, a thermostat ain't gonna help you.

Low flow faucets make the time to hot worse.
I'm finding that if I need a glass of warm water in the bathroom,
it's quicker to walk to the kitchen, heat a glass of cold water in the
microwave and walk back to the bathroom. Uses a lot less water and
probably less electricity and I get some exercise in the process.